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atlantis-ea [2021/04/21 14:59]
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atlantis-ea [2023/10/25 07:52] (current)
nunda [Commanders] Spacing and noting Basalt Queen/King map move |
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| =====General Overview===== | =====General Overview===== |
| EA Atlantis has many strengths: they have good access to non-air elemental magic with strong crosspaths; their deep one troops possess impressive offensive power; the Basalt Kings and Queens provide a recruitable super combatant chassis and {{path>H3}} access respectively, and their entire roster is [[amphibious]] allowing them to project power onto land much more easily than many other underwater nations. Their main weaknesses are that their armies are gold intensive to produce, and their research is expensive and inefficient, though a skilled player can find ways of working around these limitations. | * Every national unit is amphibious |
| | * Powerful SC chassis |
| | * Brutally high-damage troops with low MR and protection |
| | * Strong crosspaths |
| | * Excellent Earth magic out of capital; high water, some fire and astral elsewhere |
| | * No cheap mage |
| ===== National Attributes ===== | ===== National Attributes ===== |
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| ^ Race ^ Military ^ Magic Access ^ Priests ^ Buildings ^ | ^ Race ^ Military ^ Magic Access ^ Priests ^ Buildings ^ |
| | **Atlantians:** \\ ({{:abilities:amphibious.png?15&nolink}} {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}}(50%)) \\ **Deep Ones:** \\ ({{:abilities:amphibious.png?15&nolink}} {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}}(100%) {{:abilities:resist_fire.png?15&nolink}}(5) {{:abilities:coldresistance.png?15&nolink}}(5)) | Enchanted Basalt,\\ Vicious Bites, Some Coral | {{path>F2}} (rare 3) \\ {{path>E4}} (rare 5) \\ {{path>W3}} (rare 4) \\ (Uncommon {{path>S1}}) | Powerful ({{path>H3}}) \\ {{path>H2}} outside capital | {{:misc:gui:castle.png?32&nolink}} Advanced Forts\\ Can build Underwater Forts | | | **Atlantians:** \\ {{:abilities:amphibious.png?15&nolink}} {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}}(50%) \\ **Deep Ones:** \\ {{:abilities:amphibious.png?15&nolink}} {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}}(100%) {{:abilities:resist_fire.png?15&nolink}}(5) {{:abilities:coldresistance.png?15&nolink}}(5) | Enchanted Basalt,\\ Vicious Bites, Some Coral | {{path>E4}} (rare 5) \\ {{path>W3}} (rare 4) \\ {{path>F2}} (rare 3) \\ {{path>S1}} (uncommon) | Powerful ({{path>H3}}) \\ {{path>H2}} outside capital | {{:misc:gui:castle.png?32&nolink}} Advanced Forts\\ Can build Underwater Forts | |
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| Atlantis has access to castle-level forts - one level higher than is standard in EA – which can be built on land and UW. While castles don’t provide extra commander points over fortresses, and thus don’t aid mage recruitment, the additional wall strength can help defend a key chokepoint or throne province and thus they can be worth building for that purpose. The additional administration provided also gives the fort more resources for troop recruitment, though this is usually not enough to justify the 300 gold investment. | Atlantis has access to castle-level forts - one level higher than is standard in EA – which can be built on land and UW. Castles don’t provide extra commander points over fortresses, and thus don’t aid mage recruitment, the additional wall strength can help defend a key chokepoint or throne province and thus they can be worth building for that purpose. Caveat being that if someone is bringing enough troops to crack a fort they usually have enough to crack a castle. The additional administration provided also gives the fort more resources for troop recruitment, though this is usually not enough to justify the 300 gold investment. |
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| ^ Sprite ^ Unit Name ^ Special Attributes ^ Comments ^ | ^ Sprite ^ Unit Name ^ Special Attributes ^ Comments ^ |
| | {{:nations:ea:atlantis:scout.png?25&nolink}} | **??Scout#1680??**\\ {{:misc:gui:gold.png?15&nolink}} 25\\ {{:misc:gui:resources.png?15&nolink}} 1 \\ {{:misc:gui:recruitmentpoints.png?15&nolink}} 1 | {{:abilities:amphibious.png?15&nolink}} [[amphibious]]\\ {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}} [[darkvision]](50%)\\ {{:abilities:stealth.png?15&nolink}} [[stealth]](50) | A basic Atlantian scout. Recruitable from any UW fort, and is amphibious, but lacks any terrain survival traits. It’s usually not worth wasting fort turns on a scout, but given the price of your mages, you may not be able to afford to train one from each fort every turn, leaving gaps that can be filled in a semi-useful way by training scouts. \\ There are no indy scouts UW, so you will end up relying on these guys for your intelligence network. | | | {{:nations:ea:atlantis:scout.png?25&nolink}} | **??Scout#1680??**\\ {{:misc:gui:gold.png?15&nolink}} 25\\ {{:misc:gui:resources.png?15&nolink}} 1 \\ {{:misc:gui:recruitmentpoints.png?15&nolink}} 1 | {{:abilities:amphibious.png?15&nolink}} [[amphibious]]\\ {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}} [[darkvision]](50%)\\ {{:abilities:stealth.png?15&nolink}} [[stealth]](50) | A basic Atlantian scout. Recruitable from any UW fort, and is amphibious, but lacks any terrain survival traits. It’s usually not worth wasting fort turns on a scout, but given the price of your mages, you may not be able to afford to train one from each fort every turn, leaving gaps that can be filled in a very useful way by training scouts. \\ \\ There are no indy scouts UW, so you will end up relying on these guys for your intelligence network. | |
| | {{:nations:ea:atlantis:shamblerchief.png?200&nolink}} | **??Shambler Chief#1700??**\\ {{:misc:gui:gold.png?15&nolink}} 50\\ {{:misc:gui:resources.png?15&nolink}} 2 \\ {{:misc:gui:recruitmentpoints.png?15&nolink}} 1 | {{:abilities:amphibious.png?15&nolink}} [[amphibious]]\\ {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}} [[darkvision]](50%) | A basic amphibious commander with 60 leadership. \\ Not usually worth wasting a fort turn over, since indy commanders can serve much the same role, and you have much better leaders available. | | | {{:nations:ea:atlantis:coralcommander.png?200&nolink}} | **??Coral Commander#1701??**\\ {{:misc:gui:gold.png?15&nolink}} 80\\ {{:misc:gui:resources.png?15&nolink}} 26 \\ {{:misc:gui:recruitmentpoints.png?15&nolink}} 1 | {{:abilities:amphibious.png?15&nolink}} [[amphibious]]\\ {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}} [[darkvision]](50%)\\ {{:abilities:poison_barbs.png?15&nolink}} [[poison barbs]](5) | A advanced commander with 80 leadership, able to put troops in line formation. Also a miniature pre geared thug | |
| | {{:nations:ea:atlantis:coralcommander.png?200&nolink}} | **??Coral Commander#1701??**\\ {{:misc:gui:gold.png?15&nolink}} 80\\ {{:misc:gui:resources.png?15&nolink}} 26 \\ {{:misc:gui:recruitmentpoints.png?15&nolink}} 1 | {{:abilities:amphibious.png?15&nolink}} [[amphibious]]\\ {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}} [[darkvision]](50%)\\ {{:abilities:poison_barbs.png?15&nolink}} [[poison barbs]](5) | A more advanced commander with 80 leadership. \\ Still not worth wasting a fort turn on. | | | {{:nations:ea:atlantis:coralpriest.png?200&nolink}} | **??Coral Priest#1694??**\\ {{:misc:gui:gold.png?15&nolink}} 45\\ {{:misc:gui:resources.png?15&nolink}} 3 \\ {{:misc:gui:recruitmentpoints.png?15&nolink}} 1 | {{path>H1}} \\ {{:abilities:sacred.png?15&nolink}} [[sacred]]\\ {{:abilities:amphibious.png?15&nolink}} [[amphibious]]\\ {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}} [[darkvision]](50%) | Basic Atlantian priest, the only recruitable commander from coastal forts. \\ Very cheap and only 1 CP means they are your go-to choice if all you need is someone to build a temple or bless some sacreds. | |
| | {{:nations:ea:atlantis:coralpriest.png?200&nolink}} | **??Coral Priest#1694??**\\ {{:misc:gui:gold.png?15&nolink}} 45\\ {{:misc:gui:resources.png?15&nolink}} 3 \\ {{:misc:gui:recruitmentpoints.png?15&nolink}} 1 | {{path>H1}} \\ {{:abilities:sacred.png?15&nolink}} [[sacred]]\\ {{:abilities:amphibious.png?15&nolink}} [[amphibious]]\\ {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}} [[darkvision]](50%) | Basic Atlantian priest, also recruitable from coastal forts. \\ Very cheap and only 1 CP means they are your go-to choice if all you need is someone to build a temple or bless some sacreds. | | | {{:nations:ea:atlantis:motherofthedeep.png?200&nolink}} | **??Mother of the Deep#1693??**\\ {{:misc:gui:gold.png?15&nolink}} 95\\ {{:misc:gui:resources.png?15&nolink}} 5 \\ {{:misc:gui:recruitmentpoints.png?15&nolink}} 2 | {{path>H2}} \\ {{:abilities:sacred.png?15&nolink}} [[sacred]]\\ {{:abilities:amphibious.png?15&nolink}} [[amphibious]]\\ {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}} [[darkvision]](50%) \\ [[Female]] | Decent level 2 priest with 40 leadership. | |
| | {{:nations:ea:atlantis:motherofthedeep.png?200&nolink}} | **??Mother of the Deep#1693??**\\ {{:misc:gui:gold.png?15&nolink}} 95\\ {{:misc:gui:resources.png?15&nolink}} 5 \\ {{:misc:gui:recruitmentpoints.png?15&nolink}} 2 | {{path>H2}} \\ {{:abilities:sacred.png?15&nolink}} [[sacred]]\\ {{:abilities:amphibious.png?15&nolink}} [[amphibious]]\\ {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}} [[darkvision]](50%) \\ [[Female]] | Decent level 2 priest with 40 leadership that can double as a leader if necessary. \\ Useful if facing undead, or for preaching your dominion in situations where you’re trying to push it or to keep out toxic dominion. Facing [[Therodos]] UW meets both conditions. | | | {{:nations:ea:atlantis:mageofthedeep.png?200&nolink}} | **??Mage of the Deep#1692??**\\ {{:misc:gui:gold.png?15&nolink}} 215\\ {{:misc:gui:resources.png?15&nolink}} 4 \\ {{:misc:gui:recruitmentpoints.png?15&nolink}} 2 | {{path>W2,100%FWES,100%FWE}} {{:magicpath:path_r.png?20&nolink}}13 \\ {{:abilities:amphibious.png?15&nolink}} [[amphibious]]\\ {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}} [[darkvision]](50%) \\ {{:abilities:water_breathing.png?15&nolink}} [[gift of Water breathing]](10)\\ | Atlantis’ only non-cap exclusive mage, and the workhorse of their magic corps. Mages of the deep are expensive, but flexible and provide decent path access. All of them can summon water elementals, without overcasting if UW, making them vital for combat beneath the waves. The decent number (>50%) will be at least {{path>W3}}, and about 16% will random 2 in either E or F. \\ \\ On land elementals and acid, evocations are a good use of them in combat. Astral randoms, your only sorcery access, are too rare to form communions by themselves but can be useful for forging or in supporting roles. 8% have {{path>W4}}, your highest W access. \\ \\ Expensive for their research potential, making research inefficient as Atlantis. | |
| | {{:nations:ea:atlantis:mageofthedeep.png?200&nolink}} | **??Mage of the Deep#1692??**\\ {{:misc:gui:gold.png?15&nolink}} 215\\ {{:misc:gui:resources.png?15&nolink}} 4 \\ {{:misc:gui:recruitmentpoints.png?15&nolink}} 2 | {{path>W2,100%FWES,100%FWE}} 13{{:magicpath:path_r.png?20&nolink}} \\ {{:abilities:amphibious.png?15&nolink}} [[amphibious]]\\ {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}} [[darkvision]](50%) \\ {{:abilities:water_breathing.png?15&nolink}} [[gift of Water breathing]](10)\\ | Atlantis’ only non-cap exclusive mage, and the workhorse of their magic corps. Mages of the deep are expensive, but flexible and provide decent path access. All of them can summon water elementals, without overcasting if UW, making them vital for combat beneath the waves. The decent number (>50%) will be at least {{path>W3}}, and about 16% will random 2 in either E or F. On land elementals and acid, evocations are a good use of them in combat. Astral randoms, your only sorcery access, are too rare to form communions by themselves but can be useful for forging or in supporting roles. 8% have {{path>W4}}, your highest W access. Expensive for their research potential, making research inefficient as Atlantis. | | | {{:nations:ea:atlantis:basaltqueen.png?200&nolink}} | **??Basalt Queen#1695??**\\ {{:misc:gui:gold.png?15&nolink}} 325\\ {{:misc:gui:resources.png?15&nolink}} 1 \\ {{:misc:gui:recruitmentpoints.png?15&nolink}} 4 \\ {{:misc:gui:fortress.png?20&nolink}} Capital Only | {{path>H3}} \\ {{:abilities:sacred.png?15&nolink}} [[sacred]]\\ {{:abilities:amphibious.png?15&nolink}} [[amphibious]]\\ {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}} [[darkvision]](100%) \\ {{:abilities:fear.png?15&nolink}} [[fear]](5)\\ {{:abilities:resist_fire.png?15&nolink}} [[Fire Resistance]](5)\\ {{:abilities:resist_cold.png?15&nolink}} [[Cold Resistance]](5)\\ | Recruitable holy 3 priests. Also a phenomenal general with 160 leadership and a +3 morale bonus to up to 5 squads. Costs more than a castle upgrade or the cost of half a palisades, and requires two turns to recruit.\\ Competes with Basalt Kings for capital recruitment points. \\ \\ 20 [[Map Move]] allows them to move 2 underwater provinces per turn, just like their husbands (as long as no heavy armor is involved). | |
| | {{:nations:ea:atlantis:basaltqueen.png?200&nolink}} | **??Basalt Queen#1695??**\\ {{:misc:gui:gold.png?15&nolink}} 325\\ {{:misc:gui:resources.png?15&nolink}} 1 \\ {{:misc:gui:recruitmentpoints.png?15&nolink}} 4 \\ {{:misc:gui:fortress.png?20&nolink}} Capital Only | {{path>H3}} \\ {{:abilities:amphibious.png?15&nolink}} [[amphibious]]\\ {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}} [[darkvision]](100%) \\ {{:abilities:fear.png?15&nolink}} [[fear]](5)\\ {{:abilities:resist_fire.png?15&nolink}} [[Fire Resistance]](5)\\ {{:abilities:resist_cold.png?15&nolink}} [[Cold Resistance]](5)\\ | Recruitable holy 3 priests. Also a phenomenal general with 160 leadership and a +3 morale bonus to up to 5 squads. Very useful to lead and bless armies, and to claim thrones. \\ Competes with Basalt Kings for capital recruitment points, but still worth getting a few for their general utility. | | | {{::basalt_king.png?200&nolink}} | **??Basalt King#1702??**\\ {{:misc:gui:gold.png?15&nolink}} 445\\ {{:misc:gui:resources.png?15&nolink}} 1 \\ {{:misc:gui:recruitmentpoints.png?15&nolink}} 4 \\ {{:misc:gui:fortress.png?20&nolink}} Capital Only | {{path>F1W2E3,100%FWE,10%FWE}} {{:magicpath:path_r.png?20&nolink}}19 \\ {{:abilities:sacred.png?20&nolink}}[[sacred]] \\ {{:abilities:fear.png?15&nolink}} [[fear]](5)\\ {{:abilities:resist_fire.png?15&nolink}} [[Fire Resistance]](5)\\ {{:abilities:resist_cold.png?15&nolink}} [[Cold Resistance]](5)\\ {{:abilities:Resource_Bonus.png?20&nolink}}[[Resource Bonus]](10) \\ {{:abilities:Darkvision.png?20&nolink}}[[Darkvision]](100%) \\ {{:abilities:amphibious.png?20&nolink}}[[amphibious]] \\ | The best and biggest mage on the roster and a central strength of the nation. \\ Capital only. Brings heavy earth magic, great for rituals or combat (troop buffs, maws of the earth, bladewind, etc). Very nasty acid casters with the right boosters or paths. Makes an excellent SC – among the best recruitable chassis for this purpose in the EA, competitive with ??Fomorian King??s, ??Dai Oni?? etc. The paths allow for a range of excellent self buffs, including ??Phoenix Pyre??, to complement the beefy HP and decent stats. \\ \\ Comes complete with built in fear and cold and heat res, and is sacred, inviting a strong bless if you are keen to focus on this strength of the nation. Expensive, but worth the cost. Surprisingly enough they can expand fairly reliably with ??Blacksteel Full Plate?? primarily because they have too much body prot to be hurt and are too tall to suffer head hits from anything but cavalry with light lances or spears. Their fear aura, quarterstaff repels, and high stats also contribute. | |
| | {{::basalt_king.png?200&nolink}} | **??Basalt King#1702??**\\ {{:misc:gui:gold.png?15&nolink}} 445\\ {{:misc:gui:resources.png?15&nolink}} 1 \\ {{:misc:gui:recruitmentpoints.png?15&nolink}} 4 \\ {{:misc:gui:fortress.png?20&nolink}} Capital Only | {{path>F1W2E3,100%FWE,10%FWE}} 19{{:magicpath:path_r.png?20&nolink}} \\ {{:abilities:sacred.png?20&nolink}}[[sacred]] \\ {{:abilities:fear.png?15&nolink}} [[fear]](5)\\ {{:abilities:resist_fire.png?15&nolink}} [[Fire Resistance]](5)\\ {{:abilities:resist_cold.png?15&nolink}} [[Cold Resistance]](5)\\ {{:abilities:Resource_Bonus.png?20&nolink}}[[Resource Bonus]](10) \\ {{:abilities:Darkvision.png?20&nolink}}[[Darkvision]](100%) \\ {{:abilities:amphibious.png?20&nolink}}[[amphibious]] \\ | The best and biggest mage on the roster and a central strength of the nation. \\ Capital only. Brings heavy earth magic, great for rituals or combat (troop buffs, maws of the earth, bladewind, etc). Very nasty acid casters with the right boosters or paths. Makes an excellent SC – among the best recruitable chassis for this purpose in the EA, competitive with ??Fomorian King??s, ??Dai Oni?? etc. The paths allow for a range of excellent self buffs, including ??Phoenix Pyre??, to complement the beefy HP and decent stats. \\ Comes complete with built in fear and cold and heat res, and is sacred, inviting a strong bless if you are keen to focus on this strength of the nation. Expensive, but worth the cost. Surprisingly enough they can expand fairly reliably with ??Blacksteel Full Plate?? primarily because they have too much body prot to be hurt and are too tall to suffer head hits from anything but cavalry with light lances or spears. Their fear aura, quarterstaff repels, and high stats also contribute. | | |
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| Among the selection of troops, some stand out as being much more useful than others: | Among the selection of troops, some stand out as being much more useful than others: |
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| ^ Sprite ^ Unit Name ^ Magic Paths ^ Comments ^ | TODO: Add the missing units, like Atlantean Spearmen (half your starting army!) and basic Shamblers. |
| | {{:nations:ea:atlantis:atlantianspearman.png?nolink}} | **??Atlantian Spearman#1681??**\\ {{:misc:gui:gold.png?15&nolink}} 10 \\ {{:misc:gui:resources.png?15&nolink}} 4 \\ {{:misc:gui:recruitmentpoints.png?15&nolink}} 9 | {{:abilities:amphibious.png?15&nolink}} [[amphibious]]\\ {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}} [[darkvision]](50%) | \\ Basic are not much more than amphibious independent infantry and are unremarkable. They die quite easily to ranged fire or troops with more than average offensive capability. | | |
| | {{:nations:ea:atlantis:reefdweller.png?nolink}} | **??Reef Dweller#1682?? **\\ {{:misc:gui:gold.png?15&nolink}} 10\\ {{:misc:gui:resources.png?15&nolink}} 10 \\ {{:misc:gui:recruitmentpoints.png?15&nolink}} 9 | {{:abilities:amphibious.png?15&nolink}} [[amphibious]]\\ {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}} [[darkvision]](50%) \\ {{:abilities:poison_barbs.png?15&nolink}} [[poison barbs]](5) | Improve on spearmen by virtue of their equipment. They carry a shield to protect them from arrow fire, and their spear does weak poison damage, which can surprise some thug types vulnerable to poison. Their coral armour also poisons those who attack with length 1 weapons or shorter, giving them a niche use against animals and the like. While they can serve as decent line holders, you typically have better choices in your roster for troops. Reef dwellers are perhaps most remarkable for being your only troop type recruitable out of coastal forts, allowing you to marshal chaff closer to the frontlines when waging a land war. | | |
| | {{:nations:ea:atlantis:shambler.png?25&nolink}} | **??Shambler#1683??**\\ {{:misc:gui:gold.png?15&nolink}} 20\\ {{:misc:gui:resources.png?15&nolink}} 1 \\ {{:misc:gui:recruitmentpoints.png?15&nolink}} 25 | {{:abilities:amphibious.png?15&nolink}} [[amphibious]]\\ {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}} [[darkvision]](50%)\\ | The regular Atlantian **??Shambler#1683??s** are usually best avoided. The unarmed variety gives high strength for almost no resources, but the gold and rec point cost prohibit their use as siege chaff, and their low prot means they die too quickly for their multiple attacks to make a difference. The armored kinds suffer from the same problem common to most size 3 troops; low attack density which can’t make up for higher strength and hp. **??War Shambler#1684??s** suffer from this the most, losing out to other size 3 troop options in pretty much every way. **??Coral Guard#1685??** wear heavy coral armour giving them a very high prot of 17. They also wield two-handed glaives in just one hand, combining the weapon with a shield because they're just so strong. While they hit hard and are very tanky, they lack the attack density to make a mark in combat and their resource cost makes recruiting more than a few at a time very difficult. They can serve a niche as a receiver of nat prot buffs like ??stoneskin??; since their prot comes mainly from their armour, boosting their nat prot can lift the total protection up to crazy levels making them effectively immune to weaker attacks. Still, it's debatable whether your gold would have been better spent on other troops. | | |
| | {{:nations:ea:atlantis:war_shambler.png?nolink}} | **??War Shambler#1684??**\\ {{:misc:gui:gold.png?15&nolink}} 25\\ {{:misc:gui:resources.png?15&nolink}} 7 \\ {{:misc:gui:recruitmentpoints.png?15&nolink}} 30 | {{:abilities:amphibious.png?15&nolink}} [[amphibious]]\\ {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}} [[darkvision]](50%) | ::: | | |
| | {{:nations:ea:atlantis:coral_guard.png?nolink}} | **??Coral Guard#1685??**\\ {{:misc:gui:gold.png?15&nolink}} 30\\ {{:misc:gui:resources.png?15&nolink}} 26 \\ {{:misc:gui:recruitmentpoints.png?15&nolink}} 39 | {{:abilities:amphibious.png?15&nolink}} [[amphibious]]\\ {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}} [[darkvision]](50%) \\ {{:abilities:poison_barbs.png?15&nolink}} [[poison barbs]](5) | ::: | | |
| | {{:nations:ea:atlantis:Deep_one.png?35&nolink}} | **??Deep One??**\\ {{:misc:gui:gold.png?15&nolink}} 10\\ {{:misc:gui:resources.png?15&nolink}} 1 \\ {{:misc:gui:recruitmentpoints.png?15&nolink}} 9 | {{:abilities:amphibious.png?15&nolink}} [[amphibious]]\\ {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}} [[darkvision]](100%) \\ {{:abilities:resist_fire.png?15&nolink}} [[Fire Resistance]](5)\\ {{:abilities:resist_cold.png?15&nolink}} [[Cold Resistance]](5)\\ | The real strength of the troopline is in the **??Deep One#1686??s**, which feature multiple attacks across the board due to their bite attack. Deep ones trade a few points of magic res for built-in cold and fire res +5, making them less vulnerable to battlefield evocations and heat/cold auras, but more vulnerable to the likes of mind burn, etc. Most of the time, this is a good trade, as you’re less likely to encounter MR resist spells than elemental damage, but this can clearly vary depending on what nation you’re fighting. The unarmed size 2 kind provide cheap siege chaff, and good attack density, but are extremely fragile, and they may not hit hard enough to deal with tougher foes. The **??Deep One Spearman#1687??** still suffers from the same vulnerability but boasts a 19 magic damage spear attack, very useful if facing ethereal or tough opponents where your own troops’ survivability isn’t a concern. Perhaps Atlantis’ best troop though is the **??Warrior of the Deep#1689??**. Size 3, but with two high-quality attacks, one of which does 25 magic damage, these guys can dish out a lot of punishment. They also have ok prot and carry shields, making them more survivable than most deep ones, though defense is still their weakest trait. | | |
| | {{:nations:ea:atlantis:deep_one_spearman.png?nolink}} | **??Deep One Spearman??**\\ {{:misc:gui:gold.png?15&nolink}} 10\\ {{:misc:gui:resources.png?15&nolink}} 7 \\ {{:misc:gui:recruitmentpoints.png?15&nolink}} 9 | {{:abilities:amphibious.png?15&nolink}} [[amphibious]]\\ {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}} [[darkvision]](100%) \\ {{:abilities:resist_fire.png?15&nolink}} [[Fire Resistance]](5)\\ {{:abilities:resist_cold.png?15&nolink}} [[Cold Resistance]](5)\\ | ::: | | |
| | {{:nations:ea:atlantis:shambler_of_the_deep.png?nolink}} | **??Shambler of the Deep??**\\ {{:misc:gui:gold.png?15&nolink}} 20\\ {{:misc:gui:resources.png?15&nolink}} 1 \\ {{:misc:gui:recruitmentpoints.png?15&nolink}} 25 | {{:abilities:amphibious.png?15&nolink}} [[amphibious]]\\ {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}} [[darkvision]](100%) \\ {{:abilities:resist_fire.png?15&nolink}} [[Fire Resistance]](5)\\ {{:abilities:resist_cold.png?15&nolink}} [[Cold Resistance]](5)\\ | ::: | | |
| | {{:nations:ea:atlantis:warrior_of_the_deep.png?nolink}} | **??Warrior of the Deep??**\\ {{:misc:gui:gold.png?15&nolink}} 25\\ {{:misc:gui:resources.png?15&nolink}} 11 \\ {{:misc:gui:recruitmentpoints.png?15&nolink}} 30 | {{:abilities:amphibious.png?15&nolink}} [[amphibious]]\\ {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}} [[darkvision]](100%) \\ {{:abilities:resist_fire.png?15&nolink}} [[Fire Resistance]](5)\\ {{:abilities:resist_cold.png?15&nolink}} [[Cold Resistance]](5)\\ | ::: | | |
| | {{:nations:ea:atlantis:living_pillar.png?nolink}} | **??Living Pillar#1690??**\\ {{:misc:gui:gold.png?15&nolink}} 35\\ {{:misc:gui:resources.png?15&nolink}} 56 \\ {{:misc:gui:recruitmentpoints.png?15&nolink}} 35 \\ {{:misc:gui:fortress.png?20&nolink}} Capital Only | {{:abilities:sacred.png?15&nolink}} [[sacred]]\\ {{:abilities:amphibious.png?15&nolink}} [[amphibious]]\\ {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}} [[darkvision]](100%) \\ {{:abilities:resist_fire.png?15&nolink}} [[Fire Resistance]](5)\\ {{:abilities:resist_cold.png?15&nolink}} [[Cold Resistance]](5)\\ {{:abilities:castle_defence_bonus.png?15&nolink}} [[Castle Defence Bonus]] (2) | are Atlantis’ sacred troops and are a massive letdown. A sacred warrior of the deep with 21 prot - crazy high for EA – sounds great, but they are cap only and their very high resource cost means you’ll never be able to recruit enough to make a difference. Their encumberence is also crippling, rendering them unconscious after a few rounds of serious combat, a flaw reinvigoration can only partially solve. Don’t bother with a bless for these guys and spend your resources on better troops instead. | | |
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| | ^ Sprite ^ Unit Name ^ Special Attributes ^ Comments ^ |
| | | {{:nations:ea:atlantis:reefdweller.png?nolink}} | **??Reef Dweller#1682?? **\\ {{:misc:gui:gold.png?15&nolink}} 10\\ {{:misc:gui:resources.png?15&nolink}} 10 \\ {{:misc:gui:recruitmentpoints.png?15&nolink}} 9 | {{:abilities:amphibious.png?15&nolink}} [[amphibious]]\\ {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}} [[darkvision]](50%) \\ {{:abilities:poison_barbs.png?15&nolink}} [[poison barbs]](5) | Poison Barbs and poisonous weapon. Shielded and chest piece, no helmet. 2 natural protection. At coastal forts, they are the only recruitable unit. | |
| | | {{:nations:ea:atlantis:coral_guard.png?nolink}} | **??Coral Guard#1685??**\\ {{:misc:gui:gold.png?15&nolink}} 30\\ {{:misc:gui:resources.png?15&nolink}} 26 \\ {{:misc:gui:recruitmentpoints.png?15&nolink}} 39 | {{:abilities:amphibious.png?15&nolink}} [[amphibious]]\\ {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}} [[darkvision]](50%) \\ {{:abilities:poison_barbs.png?15&nolink}} [[poison barbs]](5) | Poison barbs, lethal and poisonous weapon. Shielded and fully armoured, head armor prot 14, body 12. 7 natural protection. | |
| | | {{:nations:ea:atlantis:Deep_one.png?35&nolink}} | **??Deep One??**\\ {{:misc:gui:gold.png?15&nolink}} 10\\ {{:misc:gui:resources.png?15&nolink}} 1 \\ {{:misc:gui:recruitmentpoints.png?15&nolink}} 9 | {{:abilities:amphibious.png?15&nolink}} [[amphibious]]\\ {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}} [[darkvision]](100%) \\ {{:abilities:resist_fire.png?15&nolink}} [[Fire Resistance]](5)\\ {{:abilities:resist_cold.png?15&nolink}} [[Cold Resistance]](5)\\ | Elemental resistances, 4 nat prot, 14 hp, 7 defence, no armor, poor MR. 12 and 14 damage attacks at length 0. Easily repelled. Fits 3 to a square. | |
| | | {{:nations:ea:atlantis:deep_one_spearman.png?nolink}} | **??Deep One Spearman??**\\ {{:misc:gui:gold.png?15&nolink}} 10\\ {{:misc:gui:resources.png?15&nolink}} 7 \\ {{:misc:gui:recruitmentpoints.png?15&nolink}} 9 | {{:abilities:amphibious.png?15&nolink}} [[amphibious]]\\ {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}} [[darkvision]](100%) \\ {{:abilities:resist_fire.png?15&nolink}} [[Fire Resistance]](5)\\ {{:abilities:resist_cold.png?15&nolink}} [[Cold Resistance]](5)\\ | As Deep One, but 19 damage length 3 magical weapon instead of the 12 damage claw. Still no armor. | |
| | | {{:nations:ea:atlantis:shambler_of_the_deep.png?nolink}} | **??Shambler of the Deep??**\\ {{:misc:gui:gold.png?15&nolink}} 20\\ {{:misc:gui:resources.png?15&nolink}} 1 \\ {{:misc:gui:recruitmentpoints.png?15&nolink}} 25 | {{:abilities:amphibious.png?15&nolink}} [[amphibious]]\\ {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}} [[darkvision]](100%) \\ {{:abilities:resist_fire.png?15&nolink}} [[Fire Resistance]](5)\\ {{:abilities:resist_cold.png?15&nolink}} [[Cold Resistance]](5)\\ | Elemental resistances, 9 nat prot, 26 hp, 7 defence, no armor, poor MR. 3 attacks, all length 0, 16 damage twice and then 18 damage. Easily repelled. Fits 2 to a square. | |
| | | {{:nations:ea:atlantis:warrior_of_the_deep.png?nolink}} | **??Warrior of the Deep??**\\ {{:misc:gui:gold.png?15&nolink}} 25\\ {{:misc:gui:resources.png?15&nolink}} 11 \\ {{:misc:gui:recruitmentpoints.png?15&nolink}} 30 | {{:abilities:amphibious.png?15&nolink}} [[amphibious]]\\ {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}} [[darkvision]](100%) \\ {{:abilities:resist_fire.png?15&nolink}} [[Fire Resistance]](5)\\ {{:abilities:resist_cold.png?15&nolink}} [[Cold Resistance]](5)\\ | As Shambler of the Deep, but with slightly better stats and instead of 2 claws a 25 damage length 3 magical attack and a shield. | |
| | | {{:nations:ea:atlantis:living_pillar.png?nolink}} | **??Living Pillar#1690??**\\ {{:misc:gui:gold.png?15&nolink}} 35\\ {{:misc:gui:resources.png?15&nolink}} 56 \\ {{:misc:gui:recruitmentpoints.png?15&nolink}} 35 \\ {{:misc:gui:fortress.png?20&nolink}} Capital Only | {{:abilities:sacred.png?15&nolink}} [[sacred]]\\ {{:abilities:amphibious.png?15&nolink}} [[amphibious]]\\ {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}} [[darkvision]](100%) \\ {{:abilities:resist_fire.png?15&nolink}} [[Fire Resistance]](5)\\ {{:abilities:resist_cold.png?15&nolink}} [[Cold Resistance]](5)\\ {{:abilities:castle_defence_bonus.png?15&nolink}} [[Castle Defence Bonus]] (2) | Elemental resistances, 9 nat prot, 31 hp, 19 prot body armor and no helmet, total body prot is 24, shielded, below average MR. Magical 25 damage length 3 weapon and a bite, 11 base attack. 10 encumbrance, 5 combat speed. | |
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| In summary, Atlantis’ armies can be carried on the strength of its deep ones. The size 2 kinds are useful on masse against lightly armored foes and are better at accepting late-game prot buffing magic. At the same time, warriors of the deep provide a formidable front line capable of hurting tougher targets. Reef dwellers can also serve as decent blockers and arrow catchers. | |
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| ===== Magic ===== | In summary, Atlantis’ armies can be carried on the strength of its deep ones. The size 2 kinds are useful en masse against lightly armored foes and are better at accepting late-game prot buffing magic. At the same time, warriors of the deep provide a formidable front line capable of hurting tougher targets. Neither type has discovered hats and the little ones don't carry shields, so they don't like archery. |
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| ==== National Spells ==== | Coral Guard have hats and good protection; they along with Living Pillars can form the anvil in a hammer-and-anvil setup. Reef dwellers can also serve as decent blockers and arrow catchers. |
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| ***??Summon Monster Fish??** {{gems>6W}}, Conjuration 6, {{path>W3}} ( {{:nations:ea:atlantis:monsterfish.png?nolink}} **??Monster Fish??**x1 ) Summons one monster fish. Can only be cast UW. This beastie is a chunky bag of hp with mediocre protection, which is notable for its swallow attack, which targets a whole square on the battlefield and ignores defense skill, instantly consuming the target to be digested inside the fish. This can be useful in dealing with defense-based thugs, or high value low size units. They also cause fear, so can be useful in spreading that effect to enemy lines. Despite these strengths, it’s an aquatic unit and thus only useful during wars against other UW players, and it’s likely the gems spent to summon the fish would be better invested in water elementals, given how overpowered they are UW. | |
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| | ===== Magic ===== |
| ==== Magic Access ==== | ==== Magic Access ==== |
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| {{path>F1W4}} on Basalt Kings with a {{:magicpath:path_w.png?nolink&10|}} booster, for casting ??Acid Storm??. | {{path>F1W4}} on Basalt Kings with a {{:magicpath:path_w.png?nolink&10|}} booster, for casting ??Acid Storm??. |
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| | ***??Summon Monster Fish??** {{gems>6W}}, Conjuration 6, {{path>W3}} ( {{:nations:ea:atlantis:monsterfish.png?nolink}} **??Monster Fish??**x1 ) Summons one monster fish. Can only be cast UW. This beastie is a chunky bag of hp with mediocre protection, which is notable for its swallow attack, which targets a whole square on the battlefield and ignores defense skill, instantly consuming the target to be digested inside the fish. This can be useful in dealing with defense-based thugs, or high value low size units. They also cause fear, so can be useful in spreading that effect to enemy lines. Despite these strengths, it’s an aquatic unit and thus only useful during wars against other UW players, and it’s likely the gems spent to summon the fish would be better invested in water elementals, given how overpowered they are UW. |
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| | ==== Notable Generic Magic ==== |
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| | //Discuss the top few generic spells that most increase a nation's combat power or synergize with national strategies. These will generally be early-to-mid game spells since individual spells matter much more during those periods of the game. Some examples are ??Foul Vapors?? for [[c-tis-ma | MA C'tis]], ??Horde of Skeletons?? + ??Sabbath Master??/??Sabbath Slave?? for the [[niefelheim-ea | Niefelheim]] line of nations, ??Mother Oak?? for the [[pangaea | Pangaeas]], ??Wailing Winds?? access, etc. For broader advice on magic use, link to [[https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2023973143 | Not-Lola's Basic Magic Use Guide]].// |
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| ====Combat Magic==== | //This is also a good place to point out notable magic weaknesses, such as a lack of nature access making a nation vulnerable to Foul Vapors.// |
| FIXME What is the best spell you can use in combat. What spells the best support your national lineup, Is there weakness that you need to fix? Any tricks you should be aware you have? | |
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| ====Ritual Magic==== | |
| FIXME What is the best ritual you could cast. Are there any globals you want up, any units you should be summoning? Are there any Generic rituals few nations can cast? | |
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| ====Magic Items==== | ====Magic Items==== |
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| =====Strategy===== | =====Strategy===== |
| FIXME do you have a game plan? Anything you should always be working toward? Any National weaknesses? | ====Power Curve==== |
| | //This is probably the most difficult section to get consensus for. Describe how strong the nation is during expansion, the early, mid and late game, and what makes it strong/weak at each of those points. This should give readers an idea of where the weaknesses of a nation lie (if they have not been shown already) and when to take advantage of a nation's strengths.// |
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| ====Pretender==== | ====Expansion Strategies==== |
| FIXME What kinds of scales dose your nation like? Do they require any to function? Any blesses your sacreds would like? Do you desperately need an awake expander? Examples of Pretenders? | //List some example expansion strategies here. If a strong bless or pretender is required then leave the specifics for the pretender section.// |
| ====Early Game==== | |
| FIXME How to expand, potential pitfalls and how to get around them, obvious weakness strength, how much do you have to focus on war/infrastructure | |
| ====Mid Game==== | |
| FIXME what is the first big research rush, what is the first big powerspike, where do you shift recruitment to? what are the big magic diversity issues, are there particular globals you should gun for | |
| ====Late Game==== | |
| FIXME How do you close out the game if you are in it, is the high-level research stuff you can do uniquely well, does your nation fall off, aka do you have to force things to conclude swiftly | |
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| =====Links===== | ====Example Pretender Builds==== |
| | //List some example pretender builds. Try to use the following format to keep authorship and pretender design rationale clear.// |
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| | =====See More===== |
| youtube of someone discussing the nation \\ | youtube of someone discussing the nation \\ |
| guide page on steam??\\ | guide page on steam??\\ |
| forum thread or AAR | forum thread or AAR |
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