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+^ Name  | Palisades  | Fortress  | Castle  | Citadel  | Grand Citadel  |
+^ Cost/Months  | 600/4  | 300/2  | 300/2  | 450/3  | 600/4  |
+^ Admin  | 15  | 30  | 45  | 60  | 70  |
+^ Com. Pt. Bonus  | 0  | 1  | 1  | 2  | 2  |
+^ Rec. Pt. Bonus | 50%  | 75%  | 100%  | 125%  | 150%  |
+^ Supply Storage  | 100  | 500  | 1500  | 5000  | 7500  |
+^ Base Defenders((Number of defenders varies by nation, but is always multiples of the defenders on the lowest-level fort (e.g. a fortress has 2× the palisade units, a castle has 3×, etc.) )) | 1  | 2  | 3  | 4  | 5  |
+^ Wall Integrity  | 100  | 250  | 500  | 750  | 1000  |
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 **This is meant to show the possible sites a nation may have. The most sites a nation can have is 5 sites belonging to EA Ubar. The most units that can be recruited from a single site is 5 which is several nations like MA Ulm, MA Ashod, MA Pelagia**
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 ??Völva??
 ??Igor Könhelm's Tome??
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 | ::: | Fire Drakes emit a "beam" of fire, which covers multiple squares and deeply penetrates foes' ranks. Unfortunately, Drakes are somewhat unreliable; they're [[Undisciplined]], their speed isn't very good, and their chances of being flipped by [[Animal]]-affecting spells are never zero. They're also [[Cold-Blooded]], even though they breath Fire. \\ [[Drakes]] can be summoned in greater numbers by a Dragon Master, making them cheaper and more turn-efficient. ||||
-====CyborgSellout testing====
-START GUIDE
-=====Daibakemono Archer Army=====
-(and how to leverage troops that can remain stationary for longer than 2 turns)
-===Buildup and Composition===
-Start building up daibakemono with bows around turn 8; you'll want at least 30 to fight in post-expansion battles-- basic early/midgame needs Ench 3 Constr 3 Conj 3. Requires:
-	*30 Daibakemono with bows Line
-	*20-30 Bandits with bows Line just in front of daibakemono bows
-	*30-40 Undisciplined spear bakemono-sho in front (will die)
-	*1 x Shuten-doji or Daibakemono leader (Just behind daibakemono bowline)
-	*2 x D2 Uba skelly spamming (just behind edges of line)
-	*1 x Bakemono Sorcerer (just behind center of line) to cast Earthpower, Strength of Giants x 2, Legions of Steel x 2.
-Any other leaders are placed behind the center of the line, so the shuten-doji or daibakemono commander with bodyguards can protect them. This diagram shows a sandwich version-- it's a little safer.
-| | | | | |Example Layout|
-| | {{:nations:ma:shinuyama:Uba.png?13&nolink}}|{{:nations:ma:shinuyama:Dai_Bakemono_2.png?15&nolink }}|
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-====Unit Roles====
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-===Role of Daibakemono archers===
+====Raiding Underwater (with Raid-command) by CyborgSellout====
-{{:nations:ma:shinuyama:Dai_Bakemono_2.png?25&nolink }} Daibakemono are a fairly unique troop type. Troops with heavy armor, bow/crossbow, and a 2-handed weapon, are fairly rare, and most nations do not have access to them. They allow you to leverage early-game aoe buffs much more than normal. This army focuses on Legions of Steel and Strength of Giants (Constr3, Ench 3). Enemies who use heavy infantry are forced to run across the field through longbow fire and get bad contact on a well-buffed army of heavily armored extremely heavy-hitters.
-Other things to note are that they have longer range than other archers, they have bigger arrows, and strength of giants helps their ranged attacks, as well.
+ {{:misc:sea.png?25&nolink}} **Overview:**  Usually when an underwater nation invades a land nation, there aren't many ways fellow land-nations can respond. Raiding underwater from the coast is one of the few ways to do this. Underwater nations often don't protect their borders, leaving them vulnerable to limited-commitment raiding, and in the long term, destroying the shallow coastal provinces can also help protect the land nation, since armies in those underwater border provinces will be difficult to supply.
-Since they are expensive, most of the rest of the army is built around keeping these guys from facing too much attrition-- replacing the Daibakemono archers takes more time and resources  than all of Shinu's other troop types, and also a lot of money.
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-===Role of Bakemono Sorcerer===
+{{:style:supplyusage64.png?25&nolink}} **Strategic concerns:**  Using Raid-command from a well-patrolled coastal fortress with access to many water provinces is the ideal positioning. If the enemy water nation has the ability to respond quickly, it is advantageous to be able to switch the target province every turn. Ideally, the enemy water nation is also heavily committed to invading someone else, but attacking from a patrolled and  forted province is one of the best ways to protect raiders. The underwater nation can respond with a small force, teleporters, or assassins, but troops on Raid-command shouldn't engage in battles outside the fort.
-{{:nations:ma:shinuyama:Bakemono_sorcerer.png?25&nolink }} Bakemono Sorcerers are {{path>E2}} + %25 {{path>E1}}, so they can gem into Strength of Giants and Legions of Steel as soon as Constr3 Ench3 is finished. Reinvig/unaging will get you a few more spells for your trouble, but won't affect Ubas.
-===Role of Bandit Archers===
+{{:independents:longdead_horseman.png?25&nolink}} {{:items:implementor_axe.png}} An **??Implementor Axe??** on a **??Mound King??** can be a cost-effective choice; they're fairly cheap for size of the pillage bonus and they usually kill around 300 population. (Successive raids reduce the effectiveness, but also reduce the chance of being caught, so multiples can be effective)
-{{:nations:ma:shinuyama:bandit_2.png?20&nolink }} They're cheaper, but still have armor, helmets, and melee weapons, so they'll draw a bit of fire, screen any lances that come through, and hopefully protect the Daibakemono archers from attrition. You don't want so many that the Daibakemono archers rout if all of these guys die, just a few because they have similar behavior and are cheaper to replace.
-===Role of Bakemono-sho Spearmen===
+{{:independents:barbarian1.png?15&nolink}}  Land nations may have access to units with the pillage ability, but in most cases barbarians and **??Barbarian Chief??**s are going to be the easiest non-national way to access pillage/raid commands. They're not sneaky or fast, but they can use the Raid command, have a pillage bonus, and they're very cheap, even if ??Pills of Water Breathing?? are not.
-{{:nations:ma:shinuyama:bakemono-sho_3.png?20&nolink }} These guys are just to break your enemy's formation up and reduce attrition. They're going to die, so make sure you have another 20-40 sneaking up with the army to replace them. They're very hp-dense, so they draw ranged attacks away from the daibakemono before they have buffs. They are also attack-dense, so they can cause damage, too. The general idea is that you have enough Bakemono-Sho to make sure the skeletons get on the field and the enemy front line loses formation, but not so many that they contribute to an early hp rout before your daibakemono run out of arrows
-===Role of Ubas===
+{{:items:pills_of_water_breathing.png}} **??Pills of Water Breathing??** are probably the cheapest for barbarian use. 5 barbarians and a chief can still kill a meaningful amount of population, and should evade moderate province defense. Still, in order to kill 1000 population a turn, 6 or more groups may be needed, though the unrest will also help reduce the income in the short-term. The cost of 6 ??Pills of Water Breathing?? may seem expensive, but the effects of raiding are long-term, so if the game is expected to last at least 50 more turns only a couple of successful raids are necessary to be cost-effective over time. In multiplayer, other land nations are usually willing to help fund anti-fish activities, so if you don't have access to water pills, try asking around.
-{{:nations:ma:shinuyama:Uba.png?15&nolink}} Skelly-spam. Skeletons help bolster the army hp-rout threshold, and they add some flank protection against heavy cavalry. Also, skeletons won't die to foul vapors, so they can cause enemy infantry on “attack close” to move back and forth /across/ the field, instead of closing on your archer infantry.
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-====Other Details====
-**??Flaming Arrows??**
-Right after Ench3 gets you Strength of Giants, Ench4 gives you Fire arrows. If you know you're going to fight someone who is vulnerable to that, it can be a good idea, but remember that most of your troops can't get fire resistance until Ench5. So don't let your N2 Ubas cast Wooden Warriors off script-- that can be very dangerous.
-**??Foul Vapors??**
-Requires Constr4 for ??Thistle Mace?? on an {{path>N2}} Uba. This represents the high water mark of this build, and it's worth going into some discussion about why. 5AN poison is good, but the lingering 1 is what really trips people up, especially when the enemy must advance but the Daibakemono archers do not. A unit moving 10 squares a turn is 10x as likely to hit one (or more) of those clouds. Daibakemono Archers are unlikely to get hit while stationary, and with 20 hp, are not likely to die at all. If you want to, you have a luxury of time to cast Poison Ward, and probably only need 4 casts to blanket all your good troops.
-Bakemono-sho will still die, but they're probably dead to other things before that matters. But skeletons made by an Uba will be immune, and if the enemy infantry is having ai problems (or are on attack close) the enemy may just move vertically back and forth across the field between your two skelly summons and walk through every poison cloud on the map (making a great target for archers) before trying to actually close to melee the archer line.
-===Evocation Advantage===
-Since your troops are stationary for 12 turns, all those range 25 evocations that are normally hard to leverage become very usable. You do have to make sure you script your mages correctly, though. Give them some low-fatigue spells or free time at the beginning, or they'll go offscript and burn their fatigue before the enemy gets close enough for Web or Frozen Heart.
-===Weaknesses===
-More than other troops, Daibakemono face an interesting set of edge cases
-	* **most** of the time they can 1-hit infantry over a shield
-	* **most** of the time they can deal damage through a shield
-A few points of hp, prot, or def can change these calculations drastically. The low attack density of size 3 troops means that base stats are even more relevant since harassment will occur less frequently. The Daibakemono swordsman is admittedly better, but cannot stand still for 12 turns, so can't really leverage the buffs that make it immediately more effective. Enemy heavy melee troops also cannot stay still for 12 turns, so they will be also be less effectively buffed, despite the daibakemono archer losing 1hp, 2dmg, and 1attack to the daibakemono with swords in already slim margins. The xp the daibakemono archers gain (if you don't attrite them) is more significant than normal due to their reliance on stats, as well.
-Also, as a side note, when your troops run out of ammo and advance, they won't advance in a line, so it's kind of advantageous to have the enemy hit you before you run out of ammo. If you do run out of ammo, that's probably a good sign, though, as the daibakemono should be fully buffed.
-===Aoe5+ buffs===
-??Legions of Steel?? and ??Strength of Giants?? are the basics, but ??Wave Warriors??, ??Marble Warriors??, Wards, ??Weapons of Sharpness??, or ??Quickening?? are next. Most of these come a little later, but can be included in your armies if they'll be effective. These are only for enemies who are trying to fight you with brute army; many players will try for fatigue plays or wipes, instead, so Enchantment is probably safer, most of the time.
-===Aoe1 Buffs:===
-??Mossbody??, ??Quickness??, ??Iron Warriors?? are the big ones. Takes a lot of mages, but if you are desperate enough to throw many mages into the armies to do this, it can make a difference.
-[[Daibakemono Archer Army byCyborgSellout]]
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