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 ===== Overview ===== ===== Overview =====
-FIXME+The [[eriu-ma|Elves]] are seemingly gone, and the Nature Magic they once used has started to act up. Man has thus [[man-ma|totally upended]] its [[Magic]] game to avoid things getting any worse, though the country hasn't benefitted all that much from that. The chorus is gone, the communions are tougher to build, and the castles are now taller to compensate. In a way, Man has become something like [[ulm-ma|yesterday's Ulm]], though with worse troops and more magic variety; even Man knows it can't abstain from Magic entirely.
  
 ===== National Features ===== ===== National Features =====
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 | **Humans**\\ Neutral Temperature  | Versatile Infantry \\ Crossbows \\ Knights \\ Sacred Stealthy Hvy. Crossbowmen  | {{path>A2}} (uncommon 3) \\ {{path>E1}} (uncommon 2) \\ {{path>S1}} (uncommon 2) \\ {{path>F1}} (uncommon) \\ {{path>D1}} (uncommon)\\ {{:abilities:mundane_researcher.png?15&nolink}}[[Mundane Researcher|Mundane Researchers]] \\ **Summons:** \\ {{path>D2}}, {{path>W1}} ({{gems>25D}}, 25% each) \\ **Hero:** {{path>D1B2}}  | Average ({{path>H2}})  | {{:misc:gui:castle.png?30&nolink}} Castles \\ Starts with a Grand Citadel \\ {{:abilities:mason.png?15&nolink}}[[Mason|Masons]]  | | **Humans**\\ Neutral Temperature  | Versatile Infantry \\ Crossbows \\ Knights \\ Sacred Stealthy Hvy. Crossbowmen  | {{path>A2}} (uncommon 3) \\ {{path>E1}} (uncommon 2) \\ {{path>S1}} (uncommon 2) \\ {{path>F1}} (uncommon) \\ {{path>D1}} (uncommon)\\ {{:abilities:mundane_researcher.png?15&nolink}}[[Mundane Researcher|Mundane Researchers]] \\ **Summons:** \\ {{path>D2}}, {{path>W1}} ({{gems>25D}}, 25% each) \\ **Hero:** {{path>D1B2}}  | Average ({{path>H2}})  | {{:misc:gui:castle.png?30&nolink}} Castles \\ Starts with a Grand Citadel \\ {{:abilities:mason.png?15&nolink}}[[Mason|Masons]]  |
  
 +__**Capital Income**__: {{gems>2N}}, {{gems>2A}}
  
 +=== The Curse ===
  
-__**Capital Income**__: {{gems>2N}}, {{gems>2A}}+The Curse on Man is somewhat minor, and doesn't actually happen in Man Proper. Sometime after your tenth turn (there's about a 5% chance of it happening each turn), you get a rumor about the "Old Ways" still being a thing in a province //neighboring// your capital, starting an [[event]] chain where a girl will be found with the Old Magic; you can either send a Magister of Theology to the province to kill the girl for a ??Mistletoe Garland??, or send a Magister Arcane to cautiously follow the girl into the woods. Through searching, your Magister Arcane can be [[Assassination|assassinated]] by a ??Werewolf?? and/or a ??Vine Ogre??, find a single **Glen of Verdant Greenery** that gives {{gems>1N}} a turnand/or get a ??Handful of Acorns??. Eventually he'll find and recruit the girl, as a **??Daughter of Avalon??** with {{path>N1,100%AN}}; the ultimate cost of this is 10% of the local units being [[Curse|cursed]], and/or the province itself being cursed with a literal **Cursed Lands** [[Sites|site]], which will curse 2% of the local units each turn. This event chain happens in multiple steps, and might even repeat in the same province (but never in a different province). It also increases {{:misc:scales:magic.png?14&nolink}}Magic and {{:misc:scales:growth.png?14&nolink}}Growth [[scales]], while killing the girl decreases them.
  
 +The capital of Man has chosen to suppress the "Old Ways" to suppress the Curse; for this reason, Man **loses** {{:misc:magic:naturegem.png?nolink}}Nature [[Gems]], {{:misc:magic:earthgem.png?nolink}}Earth Gems, and {{:misc:magic:astralpearl.png?nolink}}Astral Pearls at a slightly-faster rate than other nations with {{:misc:scales:drain.png?14&nolink}}Drain [[Scales]] (when it has those scales), through random events.
  
 ==== Capital Special Sites ==== ==== Capital Special Sites ====
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 ^ Sprite                                       ^ Unit Name                                                              ^ Magic                                                 ^ Special Attributes                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             ^ Comments                                                                                            ^ ^ Sprite                                       ^ Unit Name                                                              ^ Magic                                                 ^ Special Attributes                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             ^ Comments                                                                                            ^
 | {{:nations:la:man:green_knight.png?nolink}}  | **??Bernlad - Green Knight??**                                                                                               | {{:abilities:regeneration.png?15&nolink}}[[Regeneration]] (10%) \\ {{:abilities:stealthy.png?15&nolink}}[[Stealthy]] (40) \\ {{:abilities:recuperation.png?15&nolink}}[[Recuperation]] \\ {{:abilities:forest_survival.png?15&nolink}}[[Forest Survival]] \\ [[Mounted]]                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       | A Light thug chassi.                                                                                                      | | {{:nations:la:man:green_knight.png?nolink}}  | **??Bernlad - Green Knight??**                                                                                               | {{:abilities:regeneration.png?15&nolink}}[[Regeneration]] (10%) \\ {{:abilities:stealthy.png?15&nolink}}[[Stealthy]] (40) \\ {{:abilities:recuperation.png?15&nolink}}[[Recuperation]] \\ {{:abilities:forest_survival.png?15&nolink}}[[Forest Survival]] \\ [[Mounted]]                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       | A Light thug chassi.                                                                                                      |
-| {{:nations:la:man:vampire_lord.png?nolink}}  | **Lord Ruthven - ??Vampire Lord??** \\ //Hero turn arrival limit: 5//  | {{path>D1B2}} {{:misc:gui:research.png?15&nolink}}11  | {{:abilities:regeneration.png?15&nolink}}[[Regeneration]] (10%) \\ {{:abilities:vulnerability_fire.png?15&nolink}}[[Elemental Vulnerability|Fire Vulnerability]] (-5) \\ {{:abilities:resist_cold.png?15&nolink}}[[Resist Cold]] (15) \\ {{:abilities:resist_poison.png?15&nolink}}[[Resist Poison]] (25) \\ {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}}[[Darkvision]] (100%) \\ {{:abilities:stealthy.png?15&nolink}}[[Stealthy]] (40) \\ {{:abilities:seduction.png?15&nolink}}[[Seduction]] \\ {{:abilities:invulnerability.png?15&nolink}}[[Invulnerability]] (25%) \\ {{:abilities:resist_slash.png?15&nolink}}[[Slash Resistant]] \\ {{:abilities:resist_blunt.png?15&nolink}}[[Blunt Resistant]] \\ {{:abilities:cause_unrest.png?15&nolink}}[[Cause Unrest|Causes unrest]] (0.5) \\ {{:abilities:population_killer.png?15&nolink}}[[Population Killer]] (10) \\ {{:abilities:need_not_eat.png?15&nolink}}[[Need not Eat]] \\ {{:abilities:undead.png?15&nolink}}[[Undead]] \\ {{:abilities:flying.png?15&nolink}}[[Flying]] \\ {{:abilities:cannot_pass_rivers.png?15&nolink}}[[Cannot Pass Rivers]] \\ {{:abilities:immortal.png?15&nolink}}[[Immortal]]  | Gets a ??Vampire Lord?? early on if lucky.\\ quickest way to break into blood without a pretender.  |+| {{:nations:la:man:vampire_lord.png?nolink}}  | **Lord Ruthven - ??Vampire Lord#3254??** \\ //Hero turn arrival limit: 5//  | {{path>D1B2}} {{:misc:gui:research.png?15&nolink}}11  | {{:abilities:regeneration.png?15&nolink}}[[Regeneration]] (10%) \\ {{:abilities:vulnerability_fire.png?15&nolink}}[[Elemental Vulnerability|Fire Vulnerability]] (-5) \\ {{:abilities:resist_cold.png?15&nolink}}[[Resist Cold]] (15) \\ {{:abilities:resist_poison.png?15&nolink}}[[Resist Poison]] (25) \\ {{:abilities:darkvision.png?15&nolink}}[[Darkvision]] (100%) \\ {{:abilities:stealthy.png?15&nolink}}[[Stealthy]] (40) \\ {{:abilities:seduction.png?15&nolink}}[[Seduction]] \\ {{:abilities:invulnerability.png?15&nolink}}[[Invulnerability]] (25%) \\ {{:abilities:resist_slash.png?15&nolink}}[[Slash Resistant]] \\ {{:abilities:resist_blunt.png?15&nolink}}[[Blunt Resistant]] \\ {{:abilities:cause_unrest.png?15&nolink}}[[Cause Unrest|Causes unrest]] (0.5) \\ {{:abilities:population_killer.png?15&nolink}}[[Population Killer]] (10) \\ {{:abilities:need_not_eat.png?15&nolink}}[[Need not Eat]] \\ {{:abilities:undead.png?15&nolink}}[[Undead]] \\ {{:abilities:flying.png?15&nolink}}[[Flying]] \\ {{:abilities:cannot_pass_rivers.png?15&nolink}}[[Cannot Pass Rivers]] \\ {{:abilities:immortal.png?15&nolink}}[[Immortal]]  | Gets a ??Vampire Lord?? early on if lucky.\\ quickest way to break into blood without a pretender.  |
  
 =====Magic===== =====Magic=====
 +==== Magic Access ====
 +
 +//This section is the longer version of the 'Magic Access' column in National Features. List which paths the nation has access to, what level in each path and the maximum level attainable with common boosters. Avoid discussing in too much depth as much of the information is already covered in [[melfice-belmont-boosting-and-access | MelficeBelmont's Boosting and Access Guide]]. The length of this section will vary greatly depending on the nation, and does not have to be formatted in the same way as the example below. Some explanation may be required for more complicated boosting methods (e.g. commanderifying a unit with hidden paths). What exactly these paths can be used for can largely be explained in later sections, but pointing out good crosspaths works well in this section too. Mention communion access if applicable.//
 ====National Magic & Summons==== ====National Magic & Summons====
  
-  ***??Summon Black Dogs??**, {{path>D2}} Conj2  {{gems>8D}}, ({{:nations:la:man:black_dog.png?30&nolink}} ??Black Dog??x20). Requires outside assistance like a ??Troll Shaman?? to cast. These are stealthy animals, with very little survivability. However, if massed, these fey beasts can deal noticeable damage to lightly armored opponents. They Do their best work when ??Darkness?? is cast.+  ***??Summon Black Dogs??**, {{path>D2}} Conj2  {{gems>8D}}, ({{:nations:la:man:black_dog.png?30&nolink}} ??Black Dog??x20). Requires a ??Bean Sidhe#1776?? to cast. These are stealthy animals, with very little survivability. However, if massed, these fey beasts can deal noticeable damage to lightly armored opponents. They Do their best work when ??Darkness?? is cast. Get 3.6 sige strength more then the equivalent in reanimated long dead (FIXME double check math)
  
   ***??Summon Cu Sidhe??**: {{path>N2}} Conj3  {{gems>6N}}, ({{:nations:la:man:cu_sidhe.png?30&nolink}} ??Cu Sidhe??x7).  The Cu Sidhe is a size 3 sacred elvish dog. Their prot and MR are surprisingly high for animals, and their higher hp and decent damage attack can mitigate their low attack density. However, they remain a questionable use of N gems in most situations, lacking the glamour and high def skill which makes your other elf troops strong, and still possessing all the same weaknesses. If you're running a heavy bless, access to summonable sacreds from a fairly gem and mage-turn efficient spell can give them a role, but they are probably best avoided.     ***??Summon Cu Sidhe??**: {{path>N2}} Conj3  {{gems>6N}}, ({{:nations:la:man:cu_sidhe.png?30&nolink}} ??Cu Sidhe??x7).  The Cu Sidhe is a size 3 sacred elvish dog. Their prot and MR are surprisingly high for animals, and their higher hp and decent damage attack can mitigate their low attack density. However, they remain a questionable use of N gems in most situations, lacking the glamour and high def skill which makes your other elf troops strong, and still possessing all the same weaknesses. If you're running a heavy bless, access to summonable sacreds from a fairly gem and mage-turn efficient spell can give them a role, but they are probably best avoided.  
  
-  ***??Summon Barghests??**, {{path>D2}} Conj2  {{gems>7D}}, ({{:nations:la:man:Barghest.png?30&nolink}} ??Barghest??x9). which is basically a stronger version of Black Dogs. It does come later but costs a single gem less. This spell summons improved Black Dogs and Cu Sidhe, which come with defense and protection inferior for the price. However, these hounds can curse enemy units, and do 18 damage + poisonous bites. These creatures can perform decent flanking maneuvers in the midgame but are also relatively easy to amass.+  ***??Summon Barghests??**, {{path>D2}} Conj2  {{gems>7D}}, ({{:nations:la:man:Barghest.png?30&nolink}} ??Barghest??x9). which is basically a stronger version of Black Dogs. It does come later but costs a single gem less. This spell summons improved Black Dogs and Cu Sidhe, which come with defense and protection inferior for the price. However, these hounds can curse enemy units, and do 18 damage + poisonous bites. These creatures can perform decent flanking maneuvers in the midgame but are also relatively easy to amass though this is the Late age and your death gem economy will get a hard time getting off the ground and being saved up to climb death.
  
-  ***??Summon Bean Sidhe??**, {{path>D1}} Conj5 {{gems>25D}}, ({{:nations:la:man:bean_sidhe.png?10&nolink}} ??Bean Sidhe#1776??x1). recruiting judges until you get the one to Dig up an elven GhostNot only someone to Make ??Skull Staff??s then cast the Air Death Spell with a gem and boosterbut also get dip into water for national magic. They are Ghost mage assains.+  ***??Summon Bean Sidhe??**, {{path>D1}} Conj5 {{gems>25D}}, ({{:nations:la:man:bean_sidhe.png?10&nolink}} ??Bean Sidhe#1776??x1). The spooky [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banshee|banshee]] is a herald of death, [[curse|cursing]] one foe each battle (if you don't have her cast spells)She is also capable [[Assassin]], given her [[Ethereal|Etherealness]] and [[Fear]] aura, though she may require some proper equipment. For most, however, the biggest draw for her is her paths: {{path>A1D1,100%AWED}} offers an opportunity to climb the [[Death]] ladder, to say nothing of the ability to sweep enemy armies with ??Wailing Winds??. Of course, it //might// take you {{gems>100D}} or more to get the Bean Sidhe with the right pathswhile empowering {{path>D1}} ??Judge?? for the role costs {{gems>50A30D}}; the Bean is less likely to die in some freak accident, however.
  
 FIXME The dogs are copied directly from MA Man - write original descriptions to account for differences in viability/use between ages, perhaps? FIXME The dogs are copied directly from MA Man - write original descriptions to account for differences in viability/use between ages, perhaps?
  
-====Magic Access==== +==== Notable Generic Magic ==== 
-FIXME + 
-====Combat Magic==== +//Discuss the top few generic spells that most increase a nation's combat power or synergize with national strategies. These will generally be early-to-mid game spells since individual spells matter much more during those periods of the game. Some examples are ??Foul Vapors?? for [[c-tis-ma | MA C'tis]], ??Horde of Skeletons?? + ??Sabbath Master??/??Sabbath Slave?? for the [[niefelheim-ea | Niefelheim]] line of nations, ??Mother Oak?? for the [[pangaea | Pangaeas]], ??Wailing Winds?? access, etc. For broader advice on magic use, link to [[https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2023973143 | Not-Lola's Basic Magic Use Guide]].// 
-FIXME + 
-====Ritual Magic==== +//This is also a good place to point out notable magic weaknesses, such as a lack of nature access making a nation vulnerable to Foul Vapors.// 
-FIXME + 
-====Magic Items====  +====Magic Items==== 
-FIXME+ 
 +//List and describe any unique national items or discounts in this section, discuss and compare with similar generic items. 
 + 
 +Also discuss generic items that are useful and accessible for the nation. These may include:// 
 +  * //Thug gear (if the nation has good thugs)// 
 +  * //Research boosters (particularly if the nation needs help researching or is already very good at researching)// 
 +  * //Other items that synergize with the nation (e.g. ??Dwarven Hammer??s for [[ulm-ma | MA Ulm]])// 
 + 
 +===National Items==
 + 
 + 
 +===National Discount Items=== 
 + 
 +===Generic Items=== 
 ===== Strategy ===== ===== Strategy =====
-==== Early Game ====+====Power Curve==== 
 +//This is probably the most difficult section to get consensus for. Describe how strong the nation is during expansion, the early, mid and late game, and what makes it strong/weak at each of those points. This should give readers an idea of where the weaknesses of a nation lie (if they have not been shown already) and when to take advantage of a nation's strengths.// 
 + 
 + 
 +====Expansion Strategies==== 
 +//List some example expansion strategies here. If a strong bless or pretender is required then leave the specifics for the pretender section.//
  
-FIXME How to expand, potential pitfalls and how to get around them, obvious weakness strength, how much do you have to focus on war/infrastructure 
-==== Mid Game ==== 
  
-FIXME what is the first big research rush, what is the first big powerspike, where do you shift recruitment to? what are the big magic diversity issues, are there particular globals you should gun for +====Example Pretender Builds==== 
-==== Late Game ====+//List some example pretender builds. Try to use the following format to keep authorship and pretender design rationale clear.//
  
-FIXME How do you close out the game if you are in it, is the high level research stuff you can do uniquely well, does your nation fall off, aka do you have to force things to conclude swiftly 
  
-__**Pretenders**__: +=====See More=====
-FIXME+
  
-===== Strategy Guides ===== +{{template>nationindex}}
-FIXME+
  
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