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 ====== Guide to Communions ====== ====== Guide to Communions ======
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 **Author:** Naaira **Author:** Naaira
  
-//WIP// +A preliminary thank you to all the mentors on Immersion with a special mention to hpmunchcraft. Also a big thank you to everyone who provided feedback on 7thPath's Guides server. 
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-A preliminary thank you to all the mentors on Immersion with a special mention to hpmunchcraft.+
  
 ===== "Don't do communions!" ===== ===== "Don't do communions!" =====
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 <WRAP centeralign>//"Don't do communions!"//</WRAP> <WRAP centeralign>//"Don't do communions!"//</WRAP>
  
-But... huh? Wasn't this a guide to communions? as you may reasonably object.  +But... huh? Wasn't this a guide to communions? as you may reasonably object. 
 + 
 +<WRAP centeralign>//"Alright then. Don't do communions!... Unless you really should!"//</WRAP>  
  
 One of the mistakes that new players do is making huge impressive communions that explode like a supernova burning all your mages in the process. I have been guilty myself. I think my record was something like 24 communion slaves who did nothing apart from dying peacefully in their sleep. One of the mistakes that new players do is making huge impressive communions that explode like a supernova burning all your mages in the process. I have been guilty myself. I think my record was something like 24 communion slaves who did nothing apart from dying peacefully in their sleep.
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 You might have heard somewhere that you have picked a communion nation and should use communions as much as possible. Or you may have read somewhere that communions are super powerful in the late game so why should you not use such a powerful tool. You might have heard somewhere that you have picked a communion nation and should use communions as much as possible. Or you may have read somewhere that communions are super powerful in the late game so why should you not use such a powerful tool.
  
-It's pretty elementary why you should not do communions when you think about it:+It's pretty elementary why you should consider carefully before joining all your mages in a communion:
   * Mages are your most powerful pieces, capable of turning the tide of battles with their spells.   * Mages are your most powerful pieces, capable of turning the tide of battles with their spells.
   * Every communion slave is a mage not casting spells. If you bring two masters and four slaves you will be casting two spells per round on average, while your opponent, who brought six mages, will be casting six.   * Every communion slave is a mage not casting spells. If you bring two masters and four slaves you will be casting two spells per round on average, while your opponent, who brought six mages, will be casting six.
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 Fatigue is then distributed amongst masters and slaves equally. The fatigue that slaves receive depends on their path level  Fatigue is then distributed amongst masters and slaves equally. The fatigue that slaves receive depends on their path level 
 {{template>communionslavefatigue}} {{template>communionslavefatigue}}
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 +Communion masters can use gems as normal and take their new path level into consideration. They do **not** however take in consideration that spell fatigue will be distributed in a communion upon spellcasting and will thus burn extra gems to reduce fatigue as normal.
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 +{{template>rulesforgemuse}}
  
 [[https://dedas.github.io/dom4calc/#communion|This calculator]] was originally made for Dominions 4 but is still useful for approximating fatigue generation in a communion. [[https://dedas.github.io/dom4calc/#communion|This calculator]] was originally made for Dominions 4 but is still useful for approximating fatigue generation in a communion.
 +
 +==== Astral vs. Blood vs. Matrix Communions ====
 +
 +**Demonsthenes** points out that it is worth taking a closer look at the three forms of communions that all nations can potentially gain access to. Each has their upsides and downsides so let us have a brief look at that.
 +<WRAP column center 600px>
 +<tabbox Astral Communions>
 +{{ :magicpath:path_s.png?nolink |}}
 +//Advantages://
 +  * ??Communion Master?? and ??Communion Slave?? cost only 20 fatigue.
 +  * The presence of Astral mages means that the communion can easily be buffed with ??Power of the Spheres??.
 +
 +//Disadvantages://
 +  * ??Magic Duel?? can disrupt the communion. If enough slaves die before that big battle-winning spell is cast then the communion might not serve its purpose. If slaves disappear the communion might take more fatigue damage than anticipated.
 +<tabbox Blood Sabbaths>
 +{{ :magicpath:path_b.png?nolink |}}
 +//Advantages://
 +  * The presence of Blood mages means that slave fatigue can be reset with ??Rejuvenation??
 +
 +//Disadvantages://
 +  * ??Sabbath Master?? and ??Sabbath Slave?? cost 100 fatigue and have a cast time of 150%. This means that the Sabbath is slower to get going. It also means that a {{path>B1}} will briefly fall asleep when casting in provinces with Drain scales.
 +  * ??Sabbath Master?? and ??Sabbath Slave?? require {{gems>1B}} to enter. You will have to make sure you have blood slaves available. This also means that Blood Sabbaths do not work underwater.
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 +<tabbox Matrix Communions><WRAP column 250px>{{ :items:crystal_matrix.png?nolink |}}</WRAP><WRAP column 250px>{{ :items:slave_matrix.png?nolink |}}</WRAP> \\ \\ \\
 +Matrix Communions equip ??Crystal Matrix?? and ??Slave Matrix?? to form communions.
 +
 +//Advantages://
 +  * The communion is already formed at the beginning of combat so it is faster out of the gate.
 +  * Masters gain an extra script slot.
 +  * You can form communions with mages without Astral or Blood paths.
 +
 +//Disadvantages://
 +  * It takes a lot of gems to form Matrix Communions. For nations without {{path>E1S1}} you may need to spend valuable pretender turns forging matrices.
 +</tabbox>
 +</WRAP>
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 +
 ===== The seven communion types ===== ===== The seven communion types =====
 Sometimes there are very valid reasons to form a communion though. **hpmunchcraft** proposes that four types of communions exist: Sometimes there are very valid reasons to form a communion though. **hpmunchcraft** proposes that four types of communions exist:
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   * Burnout communions   * Burnout communions
   * Turbo communions   * Turbo communions
-  * Special Communions (Linebacker, Blocker, Innate autocommunions, Bailout communions)+  * Special Communions (Linebacker, Blocker, Innate Autocommunions, Bailout communions)
  
 <WRAP centeralign>//"Wait a second, Naaira! You said four, but I count to five! Are you [insert preferred derogative here]?"//</WRAP> <WRAP centeralign>//"Wait a second, Naaira! You said four, but I count to five! Are you [insert preferred derogative here]?"//</WRAP>
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-**Spells \\ \\ \\ \\ **+**Spells \\ \\ \\ \\ \\ \\ **
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   * Cast spells that increase the fatigue recovery like ??Summon Earthpower?? and ??Relief??.   * Cast spells that increase the fatigue recovery like ??Summon Earthpower?? and ??Relief??.
   * Boost the paths of your communion slaves with spells like ??Power of the Spheres??, ??Summon Phoenix Power?? and similar.   * Boost the paths of your communion slaves with spells like ??Power of the Spheres??, ??Summon Phoenix Power?? and similar.
   * Script sabbath masters to cast ??Reinvigoration?? at different intervals to reset the fatigue of all slaves in the communion.   * Script sabbath masters to cast ??Reinvigoration?? at different intervals to reset the fatigue of all slaves in the communion.
 +  * Cast spells with masters before entering the communion to make the masters fall asleep before the communion slaves hit 200 fatigue.
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-  * [[Spellsinger]] masters halve the fatigue of spells cast. This can delay the point at which your slaves start taking fatigue damage.+  * [[Spell singer]] masters halve the fatigue of spells cast. This can delay the point at which your slaves start taking fatigue damage.
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 ===== Burnout communions ===== ===== Burnout communions =====
 Burnout communions is where you let the masters burn the slaves out to cast more powerful spells. It requires the least effort and is thus the second most useful. You use more masters than in an access communion and fire away. You can do stuff to postpone the point in time when your slaves burn out, but if the battle goes long the slaves will eventually die. As noted in the [[naaira-communion#making-stablererer-communions|stablererer communions]] section you can do things to make your burnout communion last longer, but if the battle goes on for long enough your slaves... will... die. Hopefully you win the battle in the process. Burnout communions is where you let the masters burn the slaves out to cast more powerful spells. It requires the least effort and is thus the second most useful. You use more masters than in an access communion and fire away. You can do stuff to postpone the point in time when your slaves burn out, but if the battle goes long the slaves will eventually die. As noted in the [[naaira-communion#making-stablererer-communions|stablererer communions]] section you can do things to make your burnout communion last longer, but if the battle goes on for long enough your slaves... will... die. Hopefully you win the battle in the process.
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 +If you know that you will burn out your slaves you might want to consider casting **??Life after Death??** if you can. That way your slaves will return from the dead to offer their services to you again once your masters have sucked all life energy out of them.
  
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-Turbo communions are mainly useful when trying to turn timer your opponent. Thus you rely on the **Illwinter Spell AI** to pick spells for you as the battle goes on. +Turbo communions are mainly useful when trying to [[turn timer]] your opponent. Thus you rely on the **Illwinter Spell AI** to pick spells for you as the battle goes on. 
   * For example, the classical turbo communion of ??Gygja#3397?? masters with ??Jotun Werewolf#3433?? slaves rely on the spell AI's love for ??Horde of Skeletons?? to overwhelm the opponent with chaff. For extra spiciness one Gygja casts ??Rigor Mortis?? while another casts ??Grip of Winter??. You get the idea.   * For example, the classical turbo communion of ??Gygja#3397?? masters with ??Jotun Werewolf#3433?? slaves rely on the spell AI's love for ??Horde of Skeletons?? to overwhelm the opponent with chaff. For extra spiciness one Gygja casts ??Rigor Mortis?? while another casts ??Grip of Winter??. You get the idea.
  
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-===== Linebacker communions ===== +===== Special communions ===== 
-The last three forms of communions are more niche, as in there are less situations where they will be better than any other alternative, or they are harder to pull off. We will start with the linebacker communion.+Special communions are communions you pull out of your toolbox to hopefully surprise your opponent. These forms of communions are more niche, as in there are less situations where they will be better than any other alternative, or they are harder to pull off. 
 + 
 +==== Linebacker communions ==== 
  
 Linebacker communions are also called reversed communions. The idea is to pick some very combat capable slaves, buff them up with all sorts of "range: caster" spells from masters who then retreat from the field. The slaves take 3d50 fatigue damage in the process but are no longer considered slaves. Once the slaves wake up they go to town. Linebacker communions are also called reversed communions. The idea is to pick some very combat capable slaves, buff them up with all sorts of "range: caster" spells from masters who then retreat from the field. The slaves take 3d50 fatigue damage in the process but are no longer considered slaves. Once the slaves wake up they go to town.
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 There is just one... major... flaw. There is just one... major... flaw.
  
-Illwinter, in its infinite wisdom, or maybe due to sloppiness in its coding, has decided that as long as **any** communion master remains on the field of battle **all** slaves will remain slaves indefinitely. This means that linebacker communions are hardcountered by one mage casting ??Communion Master?? or ??Sabbath Master??.+Illwinter, in its infinite wisdom, or maybe due to sloppiness in its coding, has decided that as long as **any**((friendly **or enemy**)) communion master remains on the field of battle **all** slaves will remain slaves indefinitely. This means that linebacker communions are hardcountered by one mage casting ??Communion Master?? or ??Sabbath Master??.
  
 So good luck using Linebacker communions. If you succeed I applaud you. So good luck using Linebacker communions. If you succeed I applaud you.
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-===== Blocker communions =====+==== Blocker communions ====
 Blocker communions are somewhat similar to Linebacker communions. The idea is that a few mages buff a great number of slaves to the point where the enemy cannot kill them any longer. Usually the slaves are also buffed with things like ??Fire Shield?? so they can passively kill chaff. Blocker communions are somewhat similar to Linebacker communions. The idea is that a few mages buff a great number of slaves to the point where the enemy cannot kill them any longer. Usually the slaves are also buffed with things like ??Fire Shield?? so they can passively kill chaff.
  
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 {{ :guides:communions:linebacker.png |}} {{ :guides:communions:linebacker.png |}}
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-===== Innate Autocommunions =====+==== Innate Autocommunions ====
  
 What is more powerful than a turn 1 ??Earthquake??? A turn 0 of course. [[Innate-spellcaster|Innate Spellcasters]] are immensely powerful caster. They have no cast time, and their spells go off at the very beginning of the combat round. But sometimes they lack those all important paths necessary to cast ??Master Enslave?? turn 0. For that you can set up autocommunions. The requirements for a turn 0 autocommunion are steep: What is more powerful than a turn 1 ??Earthquake??? A turn 0 of course. [[Innate-spellcaster|Innate Spellcasters]] are immensely powerful caster. They have no cast time, and their spells go off at the very beginning of the combat round. But sometimes they lack those all important paths necessary to cast ??Master Enslave?? turn 0. For that you can set up autocommunions. The requirements for a turn 0 autocommunion are steep:
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 If you didn't know before, at least now you know one reason why Nazca is considered powerful. If you didn't know before, at least now you know one reason why Nazca is considered powerful.
  
-===== Bailout Communions =====+==== Bailout Communions ====
 **Causk** mentions another special communion, the bailout communion. He writes: **Causk** mentions another special communion, the bailout communion. He writes:
  
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 ===== Conclusion ===== ===== Conclusion =====
 I hope you have learned something from this small guide to communions. If you have any feedback please leave it in the guide channel on the Dominions-guides-and-discussions Discord hosted by **7thPath** (click the picture at the top of the guide to get there), or message me on Discord. I hope you have learned something from this small guide to communions. If you have any feedback please leave it in the guide channel on the Dominions-guides-and-discussions Discord hosted by **7thPath** (click the picture at the top of the guide to get there), or message me on Discord.
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