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-====== Longdead and Soulless ======
+====== Loggy's Longdead and Soulless reverse engineering notes ======
+\\
+\\
+===== Longdead =====
+\\
+==== Process ====
+\\
+If you don't have nationals, just use the fallback output. \\
+The chances to pull from the "national pool" varies depending on the creation method: \\
-The chances to pull from the "national pool" varies depending on the creation method. Note that all nations technically have a national pool!
+  * Effect 37 rituals, (remote summons, like ??Army of the Dead#970??)
+    * 50% chance of national longdead for Commander
+    * 10% chance of national longdead for Troops
-In remote summons (effect 27 rituals, Army of the Dead), the leader has a 50% chance and troops have a 10% chance.
+  * Effect 1 rituals, (summons, like ??Reanimation#877??)
+    * 100% chance of national longdead
-In ritual spells that summon permanent creatures (effect 1 rituals, so Reanimation), they are always national longdead if available.
+  * Priest Reanimation order, chance depends on your nation:
+    * MA Ermor, Sceleria:
+      * 10% chance of national longdead
+    * Niefelheim, Jotunheim, Utgard:
+      * 25% chance of national longdead
+    * Hinnom, Ashdod:
+      * 50% chance of national longdead
+    * Any other nation:
+      * 75% chance of national longdead
-Otherwise, there is a 10% chance to get nationals.
+  * Otherwise, there is a 10% chance to get nationals.
-===== Longdead =====
+\\
+\\
+==== Output ====
+\\
 === Fallback (national roll failed) ===
-You get one of 191-196, chosen randomly at equal weighting.
+  * Equal chance to: pick one of these 6; ??Longdead#191??, ??Longdead#192??, ??Longdead#193??, ??Longdead#194??, ??Longdead#195??, ??Longdead#196??
 === Jotunheim, Utgard ===
-% to use fallback. Otherwise, 50% for 2484, else 316.
+  * 50% to use fallback,
+  * Otherwise:
+    * 50% chance for: ??Longdead Giant#2484??
+    * Else: ??Longdead Giant#316??
 === Niefelheim ===
-% to use fallback, else 316.
+  * 50% chance to use fallback,
+  * Otherwise:
+    * 100% chance for: ??Longdead Giant#316??
 === EA Ermor, MA Ermor, Sceleria ===
-% to pick evenly between 186 and 187. Else pick evenly between 1657 and 1658.
+  * 50% chance to: pick ??Longdead Velite#186?? or ??Longdead Legionnaire#187??,
+  * Else: pick ??Longdead Triarius#1657?? or ??Longdead Principe#1658??
 === MA Arcoscephale, MA Machaka, LA Arcoscephale ===
-Equal chances to pick one of 2120-2122.
+  * Equal chances to: pick one of these 3 ??Longdead#2120??, ??Longdead#2121??, ??Longdead Hoplite#2122??
 === MA Ulm, MA Marignon, LA Marignon, LA Abysia ===
-Equal chances to pick between 2123 and 2124.
+  * Equal chances to: pick ??Longdead#2123?? or ??Longdead#2124??
 === LA Ulm ===
-% chance to use 2124. Otherwise use fallback.
+  * 75% chance for: ??Longdead#2124??,
+  * Otherwise: use fallback
 === EA Ulm ===
-% to pick between 3360 and 3361. Otherwise use 2123.
+  * 85% chance to: pick ??Longdead#3360?? or ??Longdead#3361??,
+  * Otherwise: use ??Longdead#2123??
 === EA Vanheim, MA Vanheim, LA Midgard ===
-% to use 3361. Otherwise use fallback.
+  * 25% chance to: use ??Longdead#3361??,
+  * Otherwise: use fallback.
-=== C'tis, any age ===
+=== EA, MA, LA C'tis ===
-Equal chances to pick any of 615-619.
+  * Equal chances to pick one of these 5; ??Longdead of C'tis#615??, ??Longdead of C'tis#616??, ??Longdead of C'tis#617??, ??Longdead Warrior#618??, ??Longdead Warrior#619??
+=== EA, MA, LA Caelum ===
+  * Equal chances to pick one of these 4: ??Caelian Longdead#2703??, ??Caelian Longdead#2704??, ??Caelian Longdead#2705??, ??Caelian Longdead#2706??
 === Nazca ===
-Equal chances to pick 2701 or 2702.
+  * Equal chances to: pick ??Nazcan Longdead#2701?? or ??Nazcan Longdead#2702??
-=== Hinnom and Ashdod ===
+=== Hinnom, Ashdod ===
-% to pick randomly between 2041-2043. Otherwise use fallback.
+  * 50% chance to: pick one of these 3; ??Longdead Rephaite#2041??, ??Longdead Rephaite#2042??, ??Longdead Rephaite#2043??,
+  * Otherwise: use fallback
 === Lanka, Kailasa, Bandar Log, Patala ===
-/7 chance to pick between 1720-1722
+  * 2/7 chance to: pick one of these 3; ??Longdead Bandar#1720??, ??Longdead Bandar Warrior#1721??, ??Longdead Bandar Warrior#1722??,
-/7 chance to pick between 1727-1729
+  * 1/7 chance to: pick one of these 3; ??Longdead Vanara#1727??, ??Longdead Vanara Warrior#1728??, ??Longdead Vanara Warrior#1729??,
-Otherwise, 1732.
+  * Otherwise: use ??Longdead Markata#1732??
 === MA Man ===
-% to use 2124, otherwise proceed to "Everyone Else".
+  * 15% chance to: use ??Longdead#2124??,
+  * Otherwise: pretend you are Berytos
+=== Berytos ===
+  * 50% chance to: pick ??Longdead#2120?? or ??Longdead#2121??,
+  * Otherwise: use ??Longdead#2451??
+\\
+\\
+===== Soulless ======
+\\
+==== Variables for Input ====
+The result of each soulless request depends on a few things:
+  * The nation creating soulless
+  * The province ID the soulless are being made in
+  * A chance for national soulless
+  * A chance for arming soulless
+  * The number of corpses to subtract
+----
+Sources and values for national and arming rates for the above:
+  * Montag -3:
+    * 10% national, 100% ArmingChance
+  * Montag -15:
+    * 25% national, 50% ArmingChance
+  * "newunit" called with unit ID -1, unknown if this is used:
+    * 10% national, 100% ArmingChance
+  * Battlesummon, damage -3:
+    * 10% national, 100% ArmingChance
+  * Reanimator priests:
+    * 90% ArmingChance, but national rate varies:
+      * If Jotunheim, 50% national
+      * If Utgard, 25% national
+      * Any other nation:
+        * Reanimator priest holy level is considered as 1 higher if ((closed d5 - 1) < number of friendly candles) in province,
+        * National soulless rate = (reanimator priest's holy level * 8)%
+  * Rituals, effect number 1 [summons, though there are no base game rituals that summon Soulless this way]:
+    * 100% national, 90% ArmingChance
+  * Rituals, effect number 37 [remote summons, like ??Carrion Reanimation??]:
+    * Units:
+      * 10% national, 10% ArmingChance
+    * Commander:
+      * 50% national, 90% ArmingChance
+\\
+\\
+==== Process ====
+  * If there is a province ID associated with this creation:
+    * Roll soulless ArmingChance, if successful proceed as making Lightly Armed soulless
+    * Otherwise, if (Civilian corpses < Military corpses):
+      * Proceed as making Lightly Armed soulless
+  * Armed Soulless upgrade chances:
+    * In EA,
+       * 25% chance to: upgrade Lightly Armed to Medium Armed soulless
+    * In MA,
+       * 50% chance to: upgrade Lightly Armed to Medium Armed, and if that succeeds:
+          * 25% chance: to upgrade to Heavy armed soulless (total of a 1/8 chance)
+    * In LA,
+       * 75% chance to upgrade Lightly Armed to Medium Armed, and if that succeeds:
+          * 50% chance: to upgrade to Heavy Armed soulless (total of a 3/8 chance)
+  * If there wasn't a province ID, you always get Unarmed soulless
+  * If this attempt is subtracting corpses, do that now.
+    * Unarmed soulless subtract Civilian corpses
+    * Any kind of Armed soulless subtract Military corpses
+\\
+\\
+==== Output ====
+\\
+=== Default soulless: ===
+  * Unarmed:
+    * ??Soulless#197??
+  * Light:
+    * ??Soulless Warrior#914??
+  * Medium:
+    * ??Soulless Warrior#915??
+  * Heavy:
+    * ??Soulless Warrior#2119??
+=== National soulless: ===
+    * __Jotunheim, Niefelheim, Utgard:__
+      * Unarmed:
+        * 50% chance to become: ??Soulless Giant#315??
+      * Light, Medium:
+        * 50% chance to become: ??Soulless Warrior#916??
+      * Heavy:
+        * 50% chance to become: ??Soulless Warrior#917??
+    * __EA, MA, LA Caelum:__
+      * Unarmed:
+        * Becomes: ??Soulless#317??
+      * Light:
+        * Becomes: ??Soulless Warrior#2242??
+      * Medium, Heavy:
+        * Becomes: ??Soulless Warrior#2243??
+    * __EA Ur, MA Uruk:__
+      * Unarmed:
+        * 75% chance to become: ??Soulless Enkidu#2981??
+      * Light:
+        * 75% chance to become: ??Soulless Warrior#2982??
+      * Medium, Heavy:
+        * Becomes: ??Soulless Warrior#2983??
+    * __Nazca:__
+      * Unarmed:
+        * Becomes: Soulless Nazcan#2707
+      * Light, Medium, Heavy:
+        * Becomes: any one of these 4; ??Soulless Nazcan Warrior#2708??, ??Soulless Nazcan Warrior#2709??, ??Soulless Nazcan Warrior#2710??, ??Soulless Nazcan Warrior#2711??
+    * __EA, MA, LA Atlantis:__
+      * 75% chance to:
+        * Unarmed:
+          * Becomes: ??Soulless of Atlantis#318??
+        * Light:
+          * Becomes: ??Soulless Warrior#919??
+        * Medium, Heavy:
+          * Becomes: ??Soulless Warrior#920??
+      * Otherwise:
+        * Unarmed:
+          * Becomes: ??Soulless Shambler#2364??
+        * Light:
+          * Becomes: ??Soulless War Shambler#2365??
+        * Medium, Heavy:
+          * Becomes: either ??Soulless War Shambler#2366?? or ??Soulless War Shambler#2367??
+    * __EA, MA, LA R'lyeh:__
+      * 75% chance to:
+        * Unarmed:
+          * Becomes: ??Soulless of Atlantis#318??
+        * Light:
+          * Becomes: ??Soulless Warrior#919??
+        * Medium, Heavy:
+          * Becomes: ??Soulless Warrior#920??
+      * Otherwise:
+        * Unarmed:
+          * Becomes: ??Soulless Shambler#2364??
+        * Light:
+          * Becomes: ??Soulless War Shambler#2365??
+        * Medium, Heavy:
+          * Becomes: ??Soulless War Shambler#2366??
+    * __EA, MA, LA C'tis:__
+      * Unarmed:
+        * Becomes: ??Soulless of C'tis#319??
+      * Light:
+        * Becomes: ??Soulless Warrior#921??
+      * Medium, Heavy:
+        * Becomes: ??Soulless Warrior#922??
+    * __Kailasa, Lanka, Bandar Log, Patala:__
+      * Roll a closed d7, then,
+      * If unarmed soulless, and:
+        * d7 result is 1-2:
+          * Becomes: ??Soulless Bandar#1716??
+        * d7 result is 3-5:
+          * Becomes: ??Soulless Vanara#1724??
+        * d7 result is 6-7:
+          * Becomes: ??Soulless Markata#1731??
+      * If d7 result was 1-2, and:
+        * Light:
+          * Becomes: ??Soulless Bandar Warrior#1717??
+        * Medium:
+          * Becomes: ??Soulless Bandar Warrior#1718??
+        * Heavy:
+          * Becomes: ??Soulless Bandar Warrior#2274??
+      * If d7 result 3-4, and:
+        * Light, Medium, Heavy:
+          * Becomes: ??Soulless Markata#1731??
+      * If d7 result 5-7, and:
+        * Light:
+          * Becomes: ??Soulless Vanara Warrior#1725??
+        * Medium, Heavy:
+          * Becomes: ??Soulless Vanara Warrior#1726??
+\\
+\\
+===== Soulless Raw ======
+Each soulless request depends on a few things:
-=== Everyone Else ===
+  * The nation creating soulless
+  * The province ID the soulless are being made in
+  * Chance for national soulless
+  * Chance for armed soulless
+  * The number of corpses to subtract
-% to pick between 2120 and 2121.
+Sources and values for the above:
-Otherwise, 2451.
+  * Montag -3: 10% national, 100% armed
+  * Montag -15: 25% national, 50% armed
+  * "newunit" called with unit ID -1: 10% national, 100% armed, unknown if this is used
+  * Battlesummon, damage -3: 10% national, 100% armed
+  * Reanimator priests: 90% armed, national rate varies:
+    * If Jotunheim, 50% national
+    * If Utgard, 25% national
+    * Any other nation:
+      * Reanimator priest holy level is increased by 1 if (closed d5 - 1) < number of friendly candles in province
+      * National soulless rate = (reanimator priest's holy level * 8)% national
+  * Rituals, effect number 10001 [regular summon units in local province, like Reanimation]: 100% national, 90% armed
+  * Rituals, effect number 10037 [remote summon permanent units]:
+    * Units: 10% armed, 10% national
+    * Commander: 50% national, 90% armed
+Process:
+  * If there is a province ID associated with this creation:
+    * Roll armed soulless chance, if successful proceed as making lightly armed soulless
+    * Otherwise, if civilian corpses < armed corpses:
+      * Proceed as if making lightly armed soulless.
+      * In EA, there's a 25% chance to upgrade to medium armed soulless
+      * In MA, there's a 50% chance to upgrade to medium armed, and if that succeeds there's a 25% chance (so a total 1/8) for heavily armed soulless
+      * In LA, there's a 75% chance to upgrade to medium, and if that succeeds there's a 50% chance (so a total 3/8) for heavily armed soulless
+  * If there wasn't a province ID, you always get unarmed soulless.
+  * If this attempt is subtracting corpses, do that now. Unarmed soulless subtract civilian corpses, any kind of armed subtract military corpses.
+  * Default soulless types:
+    * Unarmed: Soulless#197
+    * Light: Soulless Warrior#914
+    * Medium: Soulless Warrior#915
+    * Heavy: Soulless Warrior#2119
+  * National soulless:
+    * Jotunheim, Niefelheim, Utgard:
+      * Unarmed: 50% chance to be changed to Soulless Giant#315
+      * Light, Medium: 50% chance to be changed to Soulless Warrior#916
+      * Heavy: 50% chance to be changed to Soulless Warrior#917
+    * EA, MA, LA Caelum:
+      * Unarmed: Changed to Soulless#317
+      * Light: Changed to Soulless Warrior#2242
+      * Medium, Heavy: Changed to Soulless Warrior#2243
+    * EA Ur, MA Uruk:
+      * Unarmed: 75% chance to be changed to Soulless Enkidu#2981
+      * Light: 75% chance to be changed to Soulless Warrior#2982
+      * Medium, Heavy: Changed to Soulless Warrior#2983
+    * Nazca:
+      * Unarmed: Changed to Soulless Nazcan#2707
+      * Light, Medium, Heavy: Changed to any Soulless Nazcan Warrior#2708-27011 at equal weighting
+    * EA, MA, LA Atlantis:
+      * 75% to...
+        * Unarmed: Changed to Soulless of Atlantis#318
+        * Light: Changed to Soulless Warrior#919
+        * Medium, Heavy: Changed to Soulless Warrior#920
+      * Otherwise...
+        * Unarmed: Soulless Shambler#2364
+        * Light: Soulless War Shambler#2365
+        * Medium, Heavy: Either Soulless War Shambler#2366-2367 at equal odds
+    * EA, MA, LA R'lyeh:
+      * 75% to...
+        * Unarmed: Changed to Soulless of Atlantis#318
+        * Light: Changed to Soulless Warrior#919
+        * Medium, Heavy: Changed to Soulless Warrior#920
+      * Otherwise...
+        * Unarmed: Soulless Shambler#2364
+        * Light: Soulless War Shambler#2365
+        * Medium, Heavy: Soulless War Shambler#2366
+    * EA, MA, LA C'tis:
+      * Unarmed: Changed to Soulless of C'tis#319
+      * Light: Changed to Soulless Warrior#921
+      * Medium, Heavy: Changed to Soulless Warrior#922
+    * Kailasa, Lanka, Bandar Log, Patala:
+      * Roll a closed d7.
+      * If unarmed soulless:
+        * d7 result is 1-2: changed to Soulless Bandar#1716
+        * d7 result is 3-5: changed to Soulless Vanara#1724
+        * d7 result is 6-7: changed to Soulless Markata#1731
+      * If d7 result was 1-2:
+        * Light: Soulless Bandar Warrior#1717
+        * Medium: Soulless Bandar Warrior#1718
+        * Heavy: Soulless Bandar Warrior#2274
+      * If d7 result 3-4:
+        * Light, Medium, Heavy: changed to Soulless Markata#1731
+      * If d7 result 5-7:
+        * Light: Changed to Soulless Vanara Warrior#1725
+        * Medium, Heavy: Changed To Soulless Vanara Warrior#1726

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