"Bandar Log, the nation of the monkey people, is inspired by Hindu myths, ancient India and Rudyard Kipling. The Vanara comes from the Ramayana, an epic in which the monkey people aid prince Rama in his struggle against the demon king Ravana. The hierarchical division of the different species of monkeys has parallels in the Hindu caste system. I wanted the Bandar to use the alleged colors of the Indo-Aryan castes: white for priests, red for nobles and black for commoners. Markatas are exempt from the hierarchy and society at large and might be seen as untouchables of earlier times, although I imagine them less vulnerable. Important to the development of the Bandar Log were the semi-divine beings of Hindu myth." - Illwinter
The Bandar Log is the civilization of the Primates. None know for sure how it came about, but it likely involved some help from the Yakshas, the lowliest species among the region's caretakers in an era long since passed. While they were servants of the Devatas and most of them followed their lords into the Celestial Sphere, a few grew infatuated with the beauty of nature and remained on Mount Kailasa for a time, during which they bred three species of primates and possibly gave them the bare minimum gifts that constitute "civilization".
Now the Yakshas are gone – they probably left right after settling their score with the remaining Rakshasas at the island of Lanka with the help of the Bandar Log – and the Primates have a God-shaped hole in their hearts. Their civilization has improved somewhat, but they cling to the divisions and structures that were set or implied by their former masters. Fortunately for them, the divisions are easy to maintain, since no one can easily fake being a member of another caste. The Markatas are tiny, scatterbrained, and too sociable within their own group to even recognize that they're on the bottom level of society. The Vanara are human-sized and lanky, and while some still live in the trees, many have accepted the black-laced "commoner" caste. The Bandar are large and muscular, and form the red-laced "warrior" caste, with further divisions within this group based on what weapon each Bandar is allowed to use; they codified the caste system after the Yakshas departed. Last-but-certainly-not-least are the White Ones, albino Primates (almost-entirely Vanara) who were the favorites of the Yakshas, sitting at the top of the caste system due to their higher intelligence and their sacred status. Being at the top, the White Ones are allowed to do whatever they desire, short of being criminals. They are notably the only Priests, Mages, and Sacred Warriors in the nation.
Compared to Kailasa, the Bandar Log on its own has slightly-better troops and slightly-worse path access. It does maintain Kailasa's super-cheap Astral spam, which it's almost unrivaled at in the Middle Ages, and it now has a better Communion Master in the Rishi, but the loss of depth in Earth and (to a lesser extent) Water can be felt in most stages of the game. You can access all the good Summons more easily with the Rishis than you ever could with Kailasa's guys, but Gems and Pearls (especially Pearls) are a hot commodity. As for your troops, more of your troops have armor and training now; even your Sacred troops have armor, while your capital Sacreds now ride Tigers. Unfortunately, your Primates are still Animals with piss-poor Magic Resistance and mostly-terrible Morale. Fortunately, you can pay for War Elephants now.
Oh, and you might want to consider taking Blood on your Pretender – Lanka's Blood Summons are available to the Bandar Log, and they're pretty good, certainly more cost-effective than the Bandar Log's non-Blood Summons.
Special Race Attributes | Military | Magic Access | Priests | Buildings |
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Prefers Heat +2 Monke Likes Forests White Ones: Sacred Base 1 Protection +1 MR vs. Humans Might Reincarnate Bandar Apes: Size 3 Base 3 Protection +8 HP vs. Humans +5 STR vs. Humans +2 MOR vs. Humans +1 ATT vs. Humans -1 DEF & PRE vs. Humans -2 MM & MR vs. Humans Vanara Monkeys: Base 1 Protection -2 MR & MOR vs. Humans Markata Monkeys: Size 1 +4 DEF & CS vs. Humans -2 PRE vs. Humans -3 MR & MOR vs. Humans -5 HP & STR vs. Humans Just Won't Sit Still | Iron Varied Ranged Weapons Maces & Swords No Spears War Elephants Some Stealthy Troops Recruit-anywhere Sacreds Sacred Tiger Cavalry (cap-only) | 4 (rare 5) 3 (rare 4) 1 (uncommon, rare 2) 1 (uncommon, rare 2) Summons: 4 (rare 5) (req. 21) 4 (rare 5) (req. 21) 2 (req. 3) 333 (req. 5) | Weak (1) Hero: 2 Summons: 2 (req. 3) 3 (req. 4) 4 (req. 5) | Standard Forts |
Reincarnation gives your White Ones a chance to return from death WITHIN YOUR DOMINION, if their Experience is high, but they won't return as their original form if their kill count is too high; they'll appear as a Bandar instead, though those who don't kill still have a roughly 25% chance to come back as a Markata or (if not a Commander) a regular Vanara. White Ones (typically those with extra-high Experience) might achieve Moksha instead, adding a Dominion candle somewhere and occasionally boosting your Pretender's Magic; the Magic-boost only happens in paths that the deceased Commander has, and will not happen if the Pretender's level in that path is the same or higher.
The Lotus Gardens | |
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Enables recruitment of Rishi Enables recruitment of Tiger Rider Produces 2 per turn Produces 3 per turn |
You unit lineup is mostly made up of animals with below average Magic Resistance and Morale. Your troops are very likely to succumb to fear spells or fail to resist Charm Animal.
Sprite | Unit Name | Abilities | Comments |
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Markata Scout 20 1 1 | Stealthy (60) Animal Mountain Survival Forest Survival | Your cheap fort scout. | |
Atavi Chieftain 40 8 1 + Forest Rec | Stealthy (40) Animal Forest Survival | A more expensive scout and is a leader of light Atavi raid parties. A stealthy army commander that can be recruited from any forest is useful. |
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Vanara Captain 35 17 1 | Animal Forest Survival | 60 leadership commander | |
Bandar Commander 75 25 1 | Animal Forest Survival | 80 leadership commander for formations. | |
Bandar Noble 115 22 1 | Animal Forest Survival | 120 leadership commander for formations and a small morale bonus. | |
Brahmin 45 2 1 | 1 Sacred Reincarnation (50) Animal Forest Survival | Cheap minor priest that can also lead 40 troops. | |
Yogi 55 1 2 | 17 Sacred Reincarnation (50) Animal Forest Survival | Extremely cheap for the research, especially in due to their sacred upkeep. They are however somewhat less combat-capable than the Guru. | |
Guru 160 1 2 | 2111 Sacred Reincarnation (50) Animal Forest Survival Supply Bonus (10) | An out the box Mind Burner in addition to being a recruit anywhere communion master, and a cheap way to add nature to them. Also your best recruitable mage when it comes to summoning your national summons with boosters. They make up the bulk of your communions as slaves and masters. |
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Rishi 320 1 4 Capital Only | 32171100% 10% Sacred Reincarnation (50) Floating Animal Forest Survival Supply Bonus (20) | Adds earth and water magic to Bandar Log's communions, as well as being a strong astral caster in its own right. |
Sprite | Unit Name | Abilities | Comments |
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Markata 5 1 3 + Forest Rec | Undisciplined Animal Forest Survival | Highly massable ultra light undisciplined infantry. Can use sticks and stones attack vs very low armor units. Low MR and morale. Good for lance catching and holding up enemies. Six units with DEF of 14 are hard to hit. | |
Markata Archer 5 2 3 + Forest Rec | Undisciplined Animal Forest Survival | One of the cheapest short bow units in the game, but has abysmal strength which affects short bow damage. Low precision means a high friendly fire risk. | |
Atavi Archer 7 3 3 + Forest Rec | Stealthy (40) Animal Forest Survival | Stealthy. Very cheap short bow to mass, but low morale and MR. | |
Atavi Infantry 7 3 3 + Forest Rec | Stealthy (40) Animal Forest Survival | Can function as a stealthy raider or mass stone throwing if fighting a very low protection adversary. Has low morale and MR. | |
Light Bandar Archer 16 7 9 | Animal Forest Survival | No armor but high HP and str. The high strength gives this unit a very damaging long bow attack. Will struggle when trading fire with other archers due to no armor. | |
Bandar Archer 16 23 9 | Animal Forest Survival | The Light Bandar Archer, but with armor. Difficult to mass if dumping productivity scales, but more survivable for the same gold cost. | |
Vanara Archer 8 14 6 | Animal Forest Survival | Dec | |
Vanara Chakram Thrower 8 15 6 | Animal Forest Survival | Dec | |
Vanara Infantry 8 14 6 | Animal Forest Survival | Dec | |
Vanara Swordsman 11 17 13 | Animal Forest Survival | Dec | |
Light Bandar Warrior 16 13 9 | Animal Forest Survival | Dec | |
Bandar Warrior 16 20 9 | Animal Forest Survival | Dec | |
Bandar Warrior 16 20 9 | Animal Forest Survival | Dec | |
Royal Swordsman 24 25 20 | Bodyguard (2) Animal Forest Survival | Medium infantry bodyguard. Considerably more expensive than the other Bandar troops, but has a cool sword. | |
White One 23 17 31 | sacred Reincarnation (5) Animal Forest Survival | Dec | |
War Elephant 100 20 33 | Trample Animal Forest Survival | Dec | |
Tiger Rider 60 17 46 Capital Only | Sacred Reincarnation(10) Animal Forest Survival Dying Shape (Tiger) Mounted | Dec |
Sprite | Unit Name | Abilities | Comments |
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Bandarjuna - Tathagata | 2 Sacred Inspirational (1) Spreads Dominion (1) Reduces Unrest (-5/month) Dominion Attracts: Seeker of Truths) Reincarnation (100) Animal Forest Survival | Dec |
Thaumaturgy is especially tasty for you because of your proliferation of astral mages. It gets you communions along with attack spells like Mind Burn, Paralyze, Soul Slay, and Enslave Mind. "Bring big astral communion and pop people's brains" is definitely a thing you can do. It is not the only thing you can do, but sometimes it may be the best thing you can do.
Conjuration gets you some of your national summons – Contact Yaksha and Contact Yakshini at low levels are essential to get earth and water access. You can go further up Conjuration to get Summon Gandharvas for good sacred troops, then even higher for the high-end mage summons. If you are using mass astral magic, Light of the Northern Star is valuable.
Alteration is a good early defensive route for you thanks to Luck, Body Ethereal, Mossbody, Wooden Warriors, and even Earth Meld.
Enchantment gets you Strength of Giants (off of Yakshas) and Antimagic. You can Foul Vapors, I guess, too. Strength of Giants is good on things like Light Bandar Warriors that have figured out how to fling monkey-poo at things; it makes them fling it harder.
Evocation is a weak school for you. You may want Magic Duel to make sure you're the only one casting astral spells. And, hey, if your monkeys explode their brains – they may come back as other monkeys or as candles… and there's always another monkey ready to step up and take their place.
Construction doesn't have much for you early. But if you are exploding people's brains with mass soul slay, penetration boosting items like Eye of the Void make your monkeys better at it. You can thug out some Yakshas, but they are excellent combat support casters and probably too valuable to casually send around raiding.
Has 21 and with your cap can produce 4,4 and 2.
If you get the right randoms, you can forge boosters to get to 6,5, and 4.
You do have summons that give you Air access, and 5 with boosters, with Conj 9 giving you a 333 that you can use for late-game lab and battle magic.
Animal Summons: Spend nature gems for animal chaff with big HP pools but low MR. Nature gems are desperately needed elsewhere. Only used when desperate for bodies.
Sacred Summons:
You monkeys would love it if you can find a fire mage to cast Flaming Arrows, or if one of your Air summons could cast Wind Guide.
Arrow Fend would help your low-protection troops not get slaughtered by arrows.
Yakshas with Eath Boots are your strongest combat mage, improving your troops' abysmal natural protection with spells such as Marble Warriors and buffing their STR with Strength of Giants They can also make enemies easy pickings with Curse of Stones and Destruction.
The Yakshini is your underwater expander by summoning Full size Water Elementals and School of Sharks. They also cast Foul Vapors if holding a booster such as the Thistle Mace, or if leading a communion.
Guru communions are your massed mages, casting Swarm, Howl, Enslave Mind, and Mind Burn among other options.
Having strong Earth and Water access makes summoning the respective Elemental Royalty easy.
Forest Troll Tribe and Contact Naiad improves your magic, with Troll Shamans dipping you into Death and Naiads can get you into 5.
You could craft Golems for tough thugs.
Headdress of the Bull 5 1. Grants the user +2 strength and a retinue of a Buffalo. Great on a mage, as the Buffaloes can buy time for the caster and run over any would-be assassin's retinue.
Vajra 10 2. Shock Damage weapon that can be made by an astral mage. Adds armor ignoring damage on a thug, and even if not a melee guy, a mage can benefit by the Resist Shock(10) and be able to cast Lightning Bolt.
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Nations | |
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Early Ages | Arcoscephale • Ermor • Ulm • Marverni • Sauromatia • T'ien Ch'i • Machaka • Mictlan • Abysia • Caelum • C'tis • Pangaea • Agartha • Tir na n'Og • Fomoria • Vanheim • Helheim • Niefelheim • Rus • Kailasa • Lanka • Yomi • Hinnom • Ur • Berytos • Xibalba • Mekone • Ubar • Atlantis • R'lyeh • Pelagia • Oceania • Therodos |
Middle Ages | Arcoscephale • Ermor • Sceleria • Pythium • Man • Eriu • Ulm • Marignon • Mictlan • T'ien Ch'i • Machaka • Agartha • Abysia • Caelum • C'tis • Pangaea • Asphodel • Vanheim • Jotunheim • Vanarus • Bandar Log • Shinuyama • Ashdod • Uruk • Nazca • Xibalba • Phlegra • Phaeacia • Ind • Na'ba • Atlantis • R'lyeh • Pelagia • Oceania • Ys |
Late Ages | Arcoscephale • Pythium • Lemuria • Man • Ulm • Marignon • Mictlan • T'ien Ch'i • Jomon • Agartha • Abysia • Caelum • C'tis • Pangaea • Midgård • Utgård • Bogarus • Patala • Gath • Ragha • Xibalba • Phlegra • Vaettiheim • Atlantis • R'lyeh • Erytheia |