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MA Shinuyama - Land of the Bakemono

Lore

These three nations are heavily influenced by Japanese history, folklore, and myth. The first is an uncivilized nation of demonic brutes, enslaving and eating humans and other races. They are replaced by Bakemono, ghostly goblins of Japanese folklore. Finally in the Late Age, the humans take control. The beings of Shinuyama are quite heavily influenced by the old pen-and-paper RPG Bushido, although some other sources on mythological beings such as Tengu and Kitsune have been used. Modern myth, such as the western idea of the ninja, also has a place in the late nation of Jomon.

"In Dominions 5, I wanted to elaborate on Yomi and make the nation a bit more of a swarm-nation with demons entering this world in increasing numbers through demon gates raised by misled human priests."-Illwinter

When the entrance to the Netherworld closed, the Oni became fewer and fewer. Their Bakemono slaves and human servants rebelled, and when the last of the Dai Oni died, the realm was taken over by Bakemono Kings. Human smiths were forced to reveal the secrets of metalcraft to arm the Bakemono for their conquest of the lowlands. The Bakemono still live in a tribal society ruled by the strongest and most powerful of their kin. The Bakemono are a diverse kind. Huge lumbering O-Bakemono, proud Dai-Bakemono, strange shapeshifters and ghostly apparitions all heed the call of the Bakemono Kings and the Awakening God.

General Overview

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How does this nation compare to other similar nations with similar units or specialties (sacred heavy, elves, communion nation, blood nation, research, economical, forging, stealth, thug based, etc.)

National Features

Race Military Magic Access Priests Buildings
Bakemono Goblins
(Sizes 1 & 3)
Humans
Kappas ()
Weird Humanoids
Mostly-Stealthy
Cheap Size 1 Troops
Human Raiders
Size 3 Heavy Troops
No Sacred troops
Supernatural Commanders
fire 33 (rare 4)
earth 33 (rare 4)
death 33 (rare 4)
water 22 (rare 3)
nature 22
Heroes:
air 44earth 11nature 22, air 22astral 22nature 33
holy 11 Primitive (Fortresses)
Size 1 Bakemono don't need Forts in Highlands & Mountains
Can build Underwater Forts

Capital Special Sites

Mount Shinuyama
* Provides 2deathgem1firegem1watergem1earthgem per month

Notable Units

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Commanders

The commanders are a highlight of Shinuyama's lineup. Including flexible and cheap foreign recruits, no Cap-restricted recruitment, and one of the most powerful mages in the game (Bakemono Sorcerer), Shinuyama is a versatile and formidable nation. The main weaknesses are a lack of priests above holy 11 and the poor magic resistance on most of their troops.

Img Unit Name —-SpecialAttributes—- Comments
Bakemono Scout
Gold 20
5
1
+Highlands & Mountain RecMountain Rec
Stealthy(55)
Darkvision(50%)
Mountain Survival
Forest Survival
The cheapest scout in the game, and foreign recruit too! A key strength of the nation, allowing you to easily have a scout in every enemy province during a war.
Bakemono Chief
Gold 40
6
1
+Highlands & Mountain RecMountain Rec
Stealthy(40)
Darkvision(50%)
Mountain Survival
Forest Survival
Cheap stealthy foreign recruit leader. Ideal for leading small raiding parties. Doesn't have a helmet.
Bandit Leader
Gold 45
16
1
Stealthy(40)
Pillager(3)
Stealthy leader that requires a fort to recruit. The main benefits over the Bakemono Chief are decent armor and the pillage ability.
Kappa Chief
Gold 50
1
1
+Underwater Rec
Land Encumbrance(5)
Amphibious
Recuperation
Amphibious commander to lead Kappa squads.
Bakemono Shaman
Gold 80
1
2
+Highlands & Mountain Rec
holy 11random1100% 5
Sacred
Stealthy(40)
Darkvision(50%)
Mountain Survival
Forest Survival
Your most efficient researchers per unit upkeep, especially with Skull Mentor and Lightless Lantern. Ubas are more effective and efficient as battle mages. Great for building temples, forging, casting remote site searching spells, and supporting stealthy raids.
Bakemono General
Gold 85
31
1
Darkvision(50%)
Mountain Survival
Commander with 80 leadership is important for line formation and reducing routes with your undisciplined troops. Can be an effective light thug or antithug with some gear.
Shuten-doji
Gold 100
1
1
Darkvision(50%)
Invulnerability(15)
Sleep Aura(10)
80 leadership commander with much higher magic resistance, higher map move, and much lower resource cost than the Bakemono General. Invulnerability 15 and built-in Sleep Cloud make him a useful light thug chassis against foes without magic weapons. Undead and magic leadership with high map move make him useful commanding summons and cavalry.
Noppera-bo
Gold 100
5
1
Stealthy(70)
Assassin(3)
Fear(5)
Blind
Forest Survival
Spirit sight
Female
Assassin very high patience (expect few bodyguards) but no armor. Intended to kill by forcing a route with her Fear aura, but has generally high stats.

Needs gear to be effective, but can kill most commanders with just an Amulet of the Dead.
Uba
Gold 135
1
2
water 11death 11nature 11random1100%
13
Shape Changer: Ghost Cat
Forest Survival
Supply Bonus (10)
Female
Cost-effective researchers with valuable cross paths and your main naturegem access for site searching and battle magic. The cheapest researcher per gold, but have much higher upkeep than Bakemono Shaman.

The stealthy cat form has very high map movement but 1 less in all paths. In battles, this means wounds that kill unarmored human mages will turn her into a high HP cat that will often run very fast off the battlefield.
Bakemono Sorcerer
Gold 390
2
4
fire 22water 11earth 22death 22holy 11random1100%+10% 21
Sacred
Darkvision(50%)
Mountain Survival
Twiceborn(Wight Mage)
A very high level mage on a durable chassis with several valuable cross paths. Not capital-only!
His age is a major problem but can by fixed with the Unaging bless or the Twiceborn Ritual, which has a unique chassis and has a chance to upgrade him to death 33/death 44. Very expensive.

Troops

Shinuyama has an interesting troop lineup. The Bakemono and Bandits are great inexpensive chaff, while the Dai Bakemono are excellent heavy infantry with very high damage attacks. These strengths are balanced by key weaknesses: no shields (with no recruitable Air access to cast Arrow Fend), low magic resistance (with no recruitable Astral access to cast Antimagic), low map movement, no access to magic weapons, and no sacreds (so one can't mitigate any of these weaknesses with a bless).

Img Unit Name —-SpecialAttributes—- Comments
Bakemono-Sho
Gold 7
1
3
+Highlands & Mountain Rec
Undisciplined
Stealthy(40)
Darkvision(50%)
Mountain Survival
Mountain Recruitment(2)
The grunt swarm of Shinuyama, only costing 5Gold in highland and mountain provinces.
Low morale, poorly armored, and undisciplined, they compensate by being extremely cheap, fighting 6 in a square, sneak and raid, and don't mind Darkness.
They are easy to mass, can expand in groups of ~60, and are effective stealthy raiders.
The yari variant is far superior to clubs; you pay one more resource to get more damage, a repel, and ignores 20% of enemy prot.
Bakemono-Sho
Gold 7
2
3
+Highlands & Mountain Rec
Undisciplined
Stealthy(40)
Darkvision(50%)
Mountain Survival
Forest Survival
Mountain Recruitment(2)
Bakemono-Sho
Gold 8
4
9
Darkvision(50%)
Mountain Survival
Forest Survival
Mountain Recruitment(1)
A disciplined version of the Bakemono-Sho, getting slightly better armor and access to scripting/formations. They cost slightly more gold, are no longer foreign recruit, and require a lot more resources and recruitment points.
Bakemono Warrior
Gold 9
6
12
Darkvision(50%)
Mountain Survival
Forest Survival
Mountain Recruitment(1)
Getting into the most elite of the small goblins.
They may have only human stats, but that only becomes more important when you factor in your opponent will suffer greatly from the harassment penalty of your swarms.
Bakemono Archer
Gold 7
2
3
+Highlands & Mountain Rec
Undisciplined
Stealthy(40)
Darkvision(50%)
Mountain Survival
Forest Survival
Mountain Recruitment(2)
Extremely cheap archers recruitable from any fort, highland, or mountain.
The main downside from these being undisciplined is that you can't control their target priority.
Bakemono Archer
Gold 8
5
9
Darkvision(50%)
Mountain Survival
Forest Survival
Mountain Recruitment(1)
Better trained Bakemono Archers. Better body but still no head armor.
Paying extra gold so those size 1 bows can be scriptable and thus easier to point buff.
Bandit
Gold 9
11
5
Stealthy(40)
Pillager(1)
Humans in armour and wielding a two-handed spear. Sneaky and pillagers.
Not worth recruiting, unless you want to raise unrest (for various reasons) and ruin some ones economy with no plans of future invasion. Just stick with sneaky bakemonos if you want to raid. You get more gold back anyways.
Bandit
Gold 9
16
5
Stealthy(40)
Pillager(1)
Archer variant of the Bandit. Same as above, yet more useless as it costs more resources which translates into less pillagers, pillaging on the ground. Pillaging, being something you should never really want to do anyways, as it would not benefit you like it would a popkill nation.
Kappa
Gold 20
1
8
+Underwater Rec
Land Encumbrance(5)
Amphibious
Recuperation
Your Underwater expander troops. Expensive but will handle most indies so you can profit from underwater resources.
O-bakemono
Gold 25
2
4
Undisciplined
Darkvision(50%)
Mountain Survival
Big brutes with stats nearly identical to Ogres, these can be used for expansion (best mixed with Bakemono-Sho to limit casualties), siege chaff, and for massing damage output (E.g. to kill regenerating giants). They do extremely high damage but have mediocre protection and only 8 magic resistance. The low resource and recruitment point costs mean that any fort can make dozens of them a turn in an emergency, if you have the gold.
Dai Bakemono
Gold 25
31
19
Darkvision(50%)
Mountain Survival
Take that O-bakemono and make him a well-trained samurai.
With high attack skill, a big two-handed sword, and heavy armor, these are excellent heavy infantry that take buffs well.
For only a few more resources and losing a single point in some stats, the longbow versions are worth the versatility and ranged damage paired with the strength of a half-giant. The longbow variants can be excellent as line holders: with a Hold and Fire order, they will stay put so that you can buff a whole formation (E.g. every Uba can buff 5 squares of them with Mossbody).
Dai Bakemono
Gold 25
35
19
Darkvision(50%)
Mountain Survival

Heroes

Shinuyama's heroes are very important for site searching airgem and astralpearl. The Tengu King is your only native way to summon Tengus without air 22earth 11 on your Pretender.

Img Unit Name Special Attributes Comments
Yukinaga - Heart Hider fire 11death 11 9
Darkvision(50%)
Immortal
An immortal Bakemono General with low magic paths. Always valuable to have a commander who can't die and has very high morale.
Has a bow and can shoot Bane Fire
Sojobo - Tengu King
Hero turn arrival limit(10)
air 44earth 11nature 22holy 22 19
Sacred
Resist Shock(7)
Supply Bonus(20)
Flying
Mountain Survival
Storm Immunity
Gives you that important Air 4 to break you into air boosters and Queens. Also your only way to cast Contact Dai Tengu without a lucky air 22 Kitsune random or boosters.

Tamamo-no-Mae - Kitsune
Hero turn arrival limit(10)
air 22astral 22nature 33 19
Animal
Glamour
Spy
Forest Survival
Stealthy(100)
Resist Poison(5)
Supply Bonus(30)
Shape Changer(Kitsune)
Female
Invaluable to cast Antimagic to help with your troops' low magic resistance and efficiently site search airgem and astralpearl, which you don't otherwise have access to. Extremely high stealth allows her to travel with an army and suddenly appear in a key battle. Vulnerable to Magic Duel as your only Astral mage. With Power of the Spheres and a Thistle Mace, can cast Antimagic, Wind Guide, Howl, and then spam Summon Air Elemental for a key battle.

Zennyo Ryuo - Dragon of the Cave
Hero turn arrival limit(10)
water 22nature 22 13
Sacred
Resist Fire(5)
Resist Poison(15)
Resist Shock(5)
Supply Bonus(20)
Darkvision(50%)
Amphibious
Flying
Comes with Dragon Pearl (+W, 1watergem in battle)
Cast at start of battle (Natural Rain)
Shape Changer(Dragon of the Cave)
Female
Weaker precursor to the Ryujin of Jomon. Your highest water access and can raid underwater with Summon Water Elemental. Able to cast Bone Melter (a lesser Soul Slay variant) if you need to kill a low MR thug. The rain is not exciting given Shinuyama's high fire access.

Magic

National Spells

Shinuyama has an unusually large number of national summons, many of which are useful in the right situation.

  • Ambush of Tigers: nature 33 Conj 3 for 10 (summon 10+ Tigers). Undisciplined, fast beasts with two attacks. Rarely used on this nation, since you need a nature 22 Uba with a Thistle Mace to cast this, and they are usually outperformed on a per-gem basis by Okami.
  • Summon Okami: nature 11 Conj 3 for 6 (summon 10+ Okami). An economical summon, about 2x more Gem efficient than Tigers (a nature 33 gets 12 for 6 gems), with similar stats but disciplined (so you can script Attack Rear), much better Magic Resistance, Stealth, Cold Resistance, a bunch of survival abilities, but only one attack. Okami are good bodyguards for important mages and are extremely fast light cavalry (on a nation whose main cavalry options are buffing troops with Haste or Quickness), useful for interrupting buff cycles on enemy thugs and sniping poorly protected commanders. As a Magic Power unit, they perform much better in high Magic scales provinces.
  • Summon Omukade earth 22death 11 Conj 4 for 6earthgem. ( Omukadex1). Death poison (35 AN poison damage) and 15 attack skill on a tough unit make these useful for killing thugs or as raiders fluffed with Mossbody. Only one attack per square and poor defense.
  • Ghost General death 33 Conj 4 for 10deathgem. Shura are ghost commanders that can lead undead and demons and are Ethereal with Cold Aura, Fear, Amphibious and a Bane Blade. Inexpensive thug chassis useful for light raiding, taking lakes from indies / PD, thugging against foes without magic weapons, and killing enemy thugs. A more efficient use of 10deathgem than giving a Horror Helmet to a Bakemono General to add fear to an army, and cheaper than Revive Bane Lord (Bane Lord). Main weakness is only having 20 hp.
  • Contact Nushi: water 22 1 Conj 5 for 25. Need a Swamp. Nushi are basically Naiads with death 11nature 22 instead of nature 33. Homesickness prevents them from moving far. They are very useful in opening up your magic diversity with crosspaths. She can't be away from her home Swamp for long but can be defensive by casting Bone Melter and Foul Vapors At invading army. She can also help you climb other paths as she can cast Contact Naiad, Streams from Hades (with a boost), or Hidden in Snow (with Mapmove boosting boots).
  • Summon Gozu Mezu death 33 Conj 6 for 7deathgem. One usually summons ( Ox-head and Horse-face) for their polearms that inflict Trap Soul against thugs.
  • Call of the Drugvant death 44fire 11 thaum 7 for 15deathgem. A very expensive independent attack. Summons several Daeva flyers with Fear, plus some Bandits. Only the bandits stick around after the battle, so it's likely only worth it if you expect the handful of flyers to kill an important mage.

Tengus
Tengus are Sacred storm immunity Flyers. They have high Attack and Defense skill with their two-handed Katanas, and can throw a single weak Lightning bolt. Unbuffed Tengu have low protection, and thus are not effective against archers, but they are a valuable tool for a nation that otherwise doesn't have an easy way to snipe mages with flyers.

Shinuyama doesn't have native access to the paths required to summon Tengus, so air 22earth 11 can be a good choice on your pretender to unlock high air magic in the mid/late game.

  • Summon Karasu Tengus: nature 11air 11 Conj 1 for 3naturegem (summon 3 Karasu Tengu). Has .
  • Summon Konoha Tengus: air 11earth 11 Conj 3 for 5airgem (summon 5 Konoha Tengu) + 1/2*overcast). Weaker then Karasu but more mage turn efficient.
  • Contact Dai Tengu: air 22earth 11 Conj 5 for 55airgem (summon 15 Karasu Tengu + 10 Tengu Warrior + a air 33earth 11nature 11holy 22 Dai Tengu). While they can thug, they are best as extremely mobile casters to put up air magic like Storm, Mass Flight, or Fog Warriors in important fights for a nation with very limited air access. Note that in battle, Dai Tengu can cast spells as a nature 44 mage with just a Thistle Mace and Strength of Gaia.

Hengeyoka
Magical Shapeshifters native to Shinuyama, boasting a fragile animal form with some of the highest Stealth and Map Move values in the game, and a slightly-less-Stealthy humanoid form that typically has other utility. While they have some Magic paths that shouldn't be ignored, they primarily excel at infiltrating and disrupting enemy territory. Note that, since they're Animals, enemy Nature Mages might shut them down.

  • Contact Bakeneko: Conj 3 nature 22 8naturegem (summons 1 Bakeneko/ Bakeneko). Turns a handful of Nature Gems into a stealthier Shaman with less holiness and randomness (random1100%) along with 33% more bulk. This is more of a Jomon summon, since you already have Death Mages, but there are pinches when you need extra Mages for cheap. Interestingly, their "human-like" form is tougher for foes to spot than their 100%-kitty form.
  • Contact Mujina: Conj 5 nature 22 21naturegem (summons 1 Mujina/ Mujina). Mujinas are turbo-Assassins that flip between Badger & Noppera-bo form when the need arises. They have so much that you might not even feel the need to gear them up: Blind, Spirit Sight, Magic Power, Fear, earth 11nature 22random150%, and 15 Shock Resistance. With the gear, they can out-thug thugs in single combat. Be careful when equipping Hengeyoka; their Armor, Hats, Boots, and Weapons will be lost if you accidentally have them change back into their animal shapes.
  • Contact Tanuki: Conj 5 nature 22 26naturegem (summons 1 Tanuki/ Tanuki). Tanukis are Sneaky Heretics that Generate Unrest, but they're also slightly-better Ubas with Fire and increased Nature instead of Death (earth 11nature 22random2100%+50%). Amassing enough Tanukis to troll a nation into the dirt is expensive, but some missions are worth doing at any cost.
  • Contact Kitsune: Conj 6 nature 22 30naturegem (summons 1 Kitsune/ Kitsune). Kitsunes are Spies, but they're better-known for having the most Magic of the Hengeyoka (nature 33random250%+50%+50%+25%). Even the Celestial Empire has these, though under a different name. The real appeal of these fox-girls for Shinuyama is their Magic; in addition to always having more Nature Magic than the recruits, a fair amount of them (7/16) will give the Bakemono valuable Air paths, and a slightly-smaller amount (3/8) will give them debatably-more-valuable Astral paths. Some will even have the crosspath, breaking the nation into Communions.
  • Contact Jorogumo: Conj 6 nature 22death 11 30naturegem (summons 1 Jorogumo/ Jorogumo). Jorogumo are solo Raiders, accompanied by decent amounts of Large Spiders and possessing Uba-like Magic (water 11death 22nature 22random1100%). Their Spider form is actually more resilient than their human-like form, though they get more attacks that do damage in their human-like form. Though they don't have Earth (what almost every thug needs), their other three-to-four paths offer decent substitutes, and they can always hedge their bets ahead of time with an opening casting of Horde of Skeletons or Foul Vapors. Curiously, they can cast Twiceborn in their size 2 humanoid form, and come back as a size 5 Wight Mage (unless they're instakilled in their human-like form); the Black Sorcerers of Machaka were once able to do this as well, but Illwinter patched the interaction out for them, suggesting that being able to do this trick with the Jorogumo might be an oversight.

Oni Summons

The rulers of EA Yomi before the portals closed. Demons with Chaos Power and pillager but have Undisciplined, Gluttony and cause unrest. Oni units have poor protection, with a secondary ethereal ghost form that that returns the original unit (healing all afflictions) after a battle. The unit summons are relatively expensive for what you get, but the Oni General and Dai Oni have useful niches as air mages and freespawn generators.

  • Summon Ko-Oni 1 Conj 1 for 7 (summon 5 Ko-Oni + 1/2*overcast). Useful chaff; despite the mediocre stats, low morale, and no protection, the ethereal second form makes these a better choice than Reanimation for turning death gems into early game chaff.
  • Summon Ao-Oni 1 1 Conj 2 for 10 (summon 5 Ao-Oni + 1/2*overcast). Slightly tougher naked demons; their main contribution is their second attack that inflicts 20 armor piercing Cold Fatigue Damage, which is pretty effective at putting thugs to sleep.
  • Summon Aka-Oni 1 1 Conj 3 for 10 (summon 5 Aka-Oni+ 1/2*overcast). They Throw Armor Piercing Fire. These are not competitive with Summon Fire Elemental or Flaming Arrows as ways for Shinuyama to do fire damage.
  • Summon Oni earth 11death 11 Conj 4 for 12earthgem (summon 5 Oni + 1/2*overcast). Big demons with a high damage sword and Javelin. Similar stats and damag output to Dai bakemono, with better stats in TurmoilTurmoil scales, but suffer from a lack of armor.
  • Summon Kuro-Oni death 22fire 11 Conj 5 for 10deathgem. (summon 4 Kuro-Oni). Oni that throw fire and spit poison. The combination of bad precision and being undisciplined means friendly fire is a real issue, but a small group of these can be useful as counter-raiders.
  • Summon Oni General death 22fire 11 Conj 6 for 20deathgem. ( Oni Shugo). An affordable death 22random1100% mage summon that will freespawn Ko-Oni chaff. The randoms can cast Bane Fire with a Skull Staff, while the randoms can cast Wailing Winds with a Skull Staff.
  • Summon Dai Oni 4 1 Conj 8 for 45. ( Dai Oni) with death 33fire 22earth 22random1100%+10%, these are powerful mages with super combatant tier paths, with the vulnerabilities that come with being a demon. However, those paths are common on your Bakemono Sorcerer; hope for an air random for Wailing Winds and being able to Cloud Trapeze.

Magic Access

Shinuyama has excellent magic access to 5/8 magic paths, and has one of the easiest times casting diverse high-level magic without communions of any nation.

Recruitable in any fort Bakemono Sorcerer can give you fire 33, earth 33, water 22, and death 33. You can get to fire 55 by forging a Skull of Fire and then a Flame Helmet, and water 44 by forging a Water Bracelet and Robe of the Sea. One can then combine these 4 boosters on a 1/4 fire 22earth 22water 22death 22 Sorcerer to forge a Staff of Elemental Mastery.

Rounding out the elemental paths, if you can summon a Dai Tengu, he reaches air 44 with the Staff of Elemental Mastery and can forge the air boosters and then summon elemental royalty if desired.

Shinuyama has essentially no access; so you'll want to find independents and/or have some on your pretender.

One in four Uba have nature 22 and can forge a Thistle Mace. The air 22astral 22nature 33 Kitsune hero can forge a Moonvine Bracelet and then a Treelord's Staff for high nature. Otherwise, Kitsune are easy to summon and have at least nature 33 and likely at least one useful cross path.

You'll want to climb to death 55 by the late game; there's two ways to do it without empowering or getting a 1/160 lucky random. If you have a pretender with at least astral 44earth 11, he can forge a Crystal Coin, Starshine Skullcap, and then Ring of Sorcery, which allows a 1/4 death 33 random Bakemono Sorcerer with a Skull Staff and the Ring of Sorcery to forge a Skullface and then cast Lichcraft and Call Wraith Lord. Another option is to cast Forge of the Ancients and then forge the Skullface the next turn so that you're broken into death 55 even if it gets dispelled.

Blood is the hardest to break into. The Treelord's staff, Moonvine Bracelet, and Skullface are enough for an Uba to cast Contact Lamia Queen break you into blood magic for the late game. A priority for a limited blood economy should be Blood Stone, since it lets you field a lot more Bakemono Sorcerer with high earth access for things like Crumble, Iron Walls, Army of Gold, and Petrify.

Combat Magic

FIXME What is the best spell you can use in combat. What spells the best support your national lineup, Is there weakness that you need to fix? Any tricks you should be aware you have?

Ritual Magic

FIXME What is the best ritual you could cast. Are there any globals you want up, any units you should be summoning? Are there any Generic rituals few nations can cast?

Magic Items

FIXME Do you have any National items(Construction Level, Price, and required Paths). Any unique generic items few other nations can forge? What item would be useful on your unit lineup (non-standard recommend thug gear)?

Strategy

FIXME do you have a game plan? Anything you should always be working toward? Any National weaknesses?

Pretender

Since Shinuyama has no recruitable sacred troops and hard to access sacred summons, a bless should be designed around the Bakemono Sorcerer. Unaging is extremely economical, since Bakemono Sorcerer are very old and have excellent thug paths. That said, it competes with Regeneration, which can be valuable for sorcerers who fix the age problem by using Twiceborn to become Wight Mages.

Because Bakemono Sorcerer have very wide path access, it's generally possible to forge or script a combat spell to get the necessary resistances for a given fight, but resistances on the bless do reduce the effort required to thug with them safely against armies containing mages.

For scales, most forts will be able to max Dai Bakemono recruitment with Productivity scales and Turmoil scales as scales; Order scales is primarily helpful for strategies involving disciplined Bakemono. Luck scales is great for the income and heroes; Magic scales is necessary for the Unaging bless as well as research.

As a result, Shinuyama is a nation where one has a lot of freedom in pretender choice; there are viable builds with many combinations of paths and scales.

Frost Father
A rainbow bless designed to make your Bakemono Sorcerer thugs very hard to kill in the early and mid game, while providing valuable magic diversity/boosting and high paths to cast globals like Mother Oak and Earth Blood Deep Well, strategic magic like Gateway, or important combat spells once free from his prison. Remember to use a Skull Staff to Twiceborn before using in battle.

Chassis: Imprisoned
Frost Father
Paths: fire 33air 44water 33earth 44astral 44death 11nature 44blood 11
Bless: FR+10, SR+15, CR+10, PR+5, Reinvigoration x 2, MR+3, Unaging
Scales: Dominion strength4Turmoil3Productivity3Heat1Growth1Luck3Magic3

Dharmapala of the Underworld
If you feel really silly you can take a hellbless expansion titan and use them with recruitable thugs such as Bakemono Sorcerers functioning as miniature expansion titans. Please note that this specific build is untested and very memey and is offered more as inspiration than as a ready-to-go build.

Chassis: Awake
Dharmapala of the Underworld
Paths: fire 77death 1010nature 77
Bless: Awe, Fear, Regeneration
Scales: Dominion strength6Turmoil3Sloth3Cold3Death3Misfortune3Magic3
See The Virtues of Expansion Titans

Early Game

The easiest way to expand as Shinuyama is with Bakemono-Sho (the Yari variant).

  • Assuming a mountain capital, they cost just 5 Gold and almost no recruitment points/resources, so you can make dozens a turn in your capital. During the first few turns, avoid the trap of hiring half as many of the disciplined variety unless you are gold constrained; having a critical mass of Bakemono is what's important.
  • Their high attack density and repel mean that 50-70 can take most indies with 5-10 losses, and will win most bumps. Keep in mind that the club Bakemono-Sho in your starting army are much less effective when estimating your strength.
  • If you beeline for mountain/highland provinces, you can start foreign recruiting them and have each such province make another expansion party with two foreign recruit commanders and 40-60 troops every 2-3 turns.
  • Heavy cavalry are a relatively easy indie type for Bakemono expansion parties! Take rich farmlands early for the income boost.
  • Beware large groups of archers and slingers (Jaguar tribe provinces are particularly problematic, because 100% of units stand and shoot).
  • Using mercenaries with shields or ~30 Bakemono Archer ordered to to Fire Archers (hoping to trigger a rout before your Bakemono get murdered closing into melee range) works well against most archer-heavy independents.

One can also expand with squads of Kappa or O-Bakemono. Both units require almost no resources, so you can dump all of your gold into them if you like. These troops will also take losses in expansion, often more on a gold basis than with Bakemono expansion, and will fail to expand against more indie types. Note that it's easy to lose 400+ gold worth of Kappa failing to take an underwater province, so it's rare that you'll want to expand underwater first.

A few other notes on expansion:

  • You'll want to start recruiting Dai Bakemono in your capital once you have the resources to do so and enough foreign recruit capacity to recruit all the smaller Bakemono you need. This sword version, with better stats and lower resource requirements, are best when not using point buffing tactics. Note that they are faster in combat than the Bakemono-Sho, so avoid mixing small numbers of them into a squad during expansion; they will run in front, get surrounded, and take losses.
  • It can be well worth repeat-recruiting indie heavy infantry for use later in expansion, taking thrones, or in a first war. Since Bakemono-Sho are very killy with low protection and morale, even 10-20 indie units with armor and shields in front of the Bakemono is much stronger than just the Bakemono.
  • You will want to recruit some 80 leadership commanders. Generally the Shuten-Doji are a better choice if you can afford them, due to their low resource cost and higher map move.
  • The Uba are much faster researchers than Bakemono Shaman in addition to being superior combat mages, and well worth paying extra for in the early game. The nature 22 randoms are the best for site searching, since you'll want to site search everything with Bakemono Sorcerer for fire 22earth 22death 22water 11 in the early game, and the nation needs nature gems more than it needs water.

There's are few elements to rush defense and very early game warfare for Shinuyama:

  • You can have a very large number of Bakemono-Sho foreign recruited by the end of the first year. These cheap troops trade well on a gold-for-gold basis with most national troops and especially cavalry, and are easy to mass/replace. Be sure to use a good leader and bring enough troops to win decisively before your low-morale, undisciplined troops rout.
  • Against hellbless giants, a line of Dai Bakemono with O-Bakemono on the flanks. Because your capital can likely burn 500+ gold on O-Bakemono in a single turn, it's best to avoid recruiting these before you need them.
  • Bakemono-Sho are excellent stealthy raiders; ~30-50 led by a Bakemono Chief or Bandit Chief can be foreign recruited in your nearest mountains and take 6-10 PD. For an offensive war, you can easily operate 3-5 such squads leftover from expansion as a complement to a Dai Bakemono heavy core army, each costing only ~200-300 gold. Don't miss out on the opportunity to take many of your opponent's lands in the first few turns of a war.
  • In multiplayer, try to keep your troops stealthed when not fighting, so that it's hard for your opponents to know the size of your forces. Especially in multiplayer, having hidden extra forces can lead your opponent to miscalculate.
  • Shinuyama can easily forge Effigy of War when you want to make it look like you have an army you don't.

Shinuyama has a few ways to destroy armies using early game magic:

  • You can defend very effectively using a line of 10-15 Dai Bakemono on a mix of Hold and Fire and Guard Commander (for any Dai Bakemono present), point buffing them with 3+ Uba just behind casting 5 x Mossbody (Protection is great for any leftover turns). Add additional magic like Strength of Giants, Legions of Steel as available, but such a force can kill many early game armies with a very small commitment of troops.
  • Shinuyama can easily mass archers using Foreign recruit. An army with Flaming arrows, with Dai Bakemono and Bandit on Hold and Fire with Bakemono Archer massed behind can be very strong before Arrow Fend is available to opponents. The above Mossbody approach is great for buffing the line of Dai Bakemono. When on the offensive, you can take advance of the stealthy high mobility of Uba in their second shape to reinforce. If you have your air magic national heroes Wind Guide adds a great deal.
  • All Bakemono Sorceror make excellent early game thugs. With just 5 gems of Construction 2 gear (Kithaironic Lion Pelt) casting Ironskin, Summon Earthpower, Liquid Body, Breath of Winter, and Fire Shield and an nature 22 Uba fluffer with 1naturegem1watergem casting Mossbody, Regeneration, Enlarge, and Quickness they are heavy thugs able to destroy entire armies of elite troops. It's well worth bringing a Holy Water Bottle if you have a useful bless. Note that replacing their Quarterstaff with another weapon loses the repel; so especially against units with lances, it can be better to use a length 3 weapon (so enlarge brings it to length 4) like a Stinger. Add gear resist whatever magic types your opponent is using or win against counter-thugs.
  • Note that a Blacksteel Full Plate is essential to thug successfully against heavy cavalry like Knight of Avalon.
  • Beware trying to do fluffed thugging with your own PD present (the Uba fleeing/dying plus the PD dying can make your sorcerer run; a Dragon Helmet can help when it's only 1PD, but a rout is a certainty with 20+ PD).
  • The specific combination of high protection, Mossbody, and Temper Flesh / Liquid Body essentially negates 75% of all attacks, even with anti-thug weapons like a Greatsword of Sharpness. With only Mossbody, it's likely that eventually a high DRN roll on an attack will result in Mossbody popping, and the thug dying. If you're worried about flyers hitting you turn 1 and interrupting spellcasting, cast Mossbody and Liquid Body first; for this reason, it's much more important than Ironskin.
  • All Uba can cast Mossbody; so if you have a Regeneration bless, a Wraith Sword, or Ring of Regeneration, you can use any Uba for fluffing.
  • If you're using nature 22 Uba as fluffers often, consider using a Skull Staff to cast Twiceborn on them as soon as you have the research. The fluffer often dies, and it's easy to run out of this highly valuable random. And the resulting Wight Mage is a highly mobile Foul Vapors caster.

Mid Game

FIXME what is the first big research rush, what is the first big powerspike, where do you shift recruitment to? what are the big magic diversity issues, are there particular globals you should gun for

Late Game

FIXME How do you close out the game if you are in it, is the high-level research stuff you can do uniquely well, does your nation fall off, aka do you have to force things to conclude swiftly

shinuyama-ma.txt · Last modified: 2021/11/08 00:55 by demonsthenes